By the way, why is a steep ramp-up curve seen as a good thing? I believe accessible is good. What matters is depth. You can get into something on a deeper level later. Again, that is a maxim for good coin-op arcade design.
By the way, why is a steep ramp-up curve seen as a good thing? I believe accessible is good. What matters is depth. You can get into something on a deeper level later. Again, that is a maxim for good coin-op arcade design.
I'm sorry Rol but I'm going to have to disagree with you disagree with you calling Dead Space: Extraction a casual game. I call it a worthless waste of time. I'd rather player Wii Play or Mario Party then that crap any day of the week.
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| RolStoppable said: "Casual games" are a wonderful thing, aren't they? Well, they aren't. They are a disgrace to gaming. But actually, this thread isn't so much about games per se, but more about the term "casual games" itself. When Nintendo regained the lead in the home console space, their success had to be explained somehow and suddenly the term "casual games" got thrown around all the time. Of course sooner or later third parties, like the parasites they are, would attempt to find similar success as Nintendo and began to make their own "casual games". The important difference is that Nintendo doesn't think of their potential consumers as being stupid (at least in most cases) while third parties do and it shows in their dumbed down games. Over the course of the past few years it became clear to me that "casual games" is really only a nice way to say "retarded games for retarded gamers" and since quite some time whenever I see this term popping up in an article or a post I read it exactly that way. At times it's quite entertaining, but sometimes it's a little bit irritating. Nowadays when I play a bad, boring or unchallenging game like Dirt 2 or Dead Space Extraction (both on Wii), I start to think of it as "casual game". "What a stupid and dumb game this is. What were they thinking?" I don't think that I am alone with this line of thinking. I am also pretty sure that many people use the term "casual games" deliberately to direct an insult towards someone else without it coming off as an insult. Stealth trolling so to say. How about you? What does "casual games" mean to you? |
Im slightly inclined to agree, because I would call Mario games core, and games that just feel too short, gimmicky, and not well thought out casual.
(Core being "traditionally core". Games like mario, sonic, streets of rage, zelda, fighters, racers, etc, )


KylieDog said:
Whack-a-mole, there is your casual arcade game. |
LOL.
The bosses in Wii Sports Resort are way more difficult than Shang Tsung or M. Bison. Waggle/button mashing doesn't work in WSR.
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LOL. The bosses in Wii Sports Resort are way more difficult than Shang Tsung or M. Bison. Waggle/button mashing doesn't work in WSR. |
Even if true it's only so because of the lack of controls. No doubt playing Forza with Kinect is a lot harder than a steering wheel with force feedback and a nice set of pedals. (which mean you have to dumb down the gameplay for it to work) With Wii Sport you are limited on what you can do and have to rely heavily on the AI/program . Example; in table tennis the AI moves your character so it takes some time to learn how to hit the ball in order learn the pattern of how AI moves both characters around. I felt like I fighting against the controls more than the game itself.
the Wii is an abomonation that will ruin gaming for most people, gaming used to be cool, fun and special, now its shitty mass produced casual turd.
Smidlee said:
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Lack of controls? Wii Sports Resort doesn't have auto-aim like casual games do.
Defeating the bosses in WSR would be impossible using a traditional controller. How would a control pad help when there are three hundred and sixty possible lines of attack in Swordfighting?
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I don't like to use the term 'Casual Games' coz it has no significant definition for me.
This whole mentality of for example, Wii Sports being a 'Casual Game' is just rubbish. I would call it a Party Game where friends and families can get together and play the game.
And then there's the fanboy terms where they call the Wii "The Casual Console". I mean... WTF... So then how are games like Mario Galaxy, Mario Party, etc all so called "Casual"? Is it because there's no blood and shooting other humans invovled and not hardcore and hence it's "Casual"??? Rubbish I'd say...

| RolStoppable said: "Casual games" are a wonderful thing, aren't they? Well, they aren't. They are a disgrace to gaming. But actually, this thread isn't so much about games per se, but more about the term "casual games" itself. When Nintendo regained the lead in the home console space, their success had to be explained somehow and suddenly the term "casual games" got thrown around all the time. Of course sooner or later third parties, like the parasites they are, would attempt to find similar success as Nintendo and began to make their own "casual games". The important difference is that Nintendo doesn't think of their potential consumers as being stupid (at least in most cases) while third parties do and it shows in their dumbed down games. Over the course of the past few years it became clear to me that "casual games" is really only a nice way to say "retarded games for retarded gamers" and since quite some time whenever I see this term popping up in an article or a post I read it exactly that way. At times it's quite entertaining, but sometimes it's a little bit irritating. Nowadays when I play a bad, boring or unchallenging game like Dirt 2 or Dead Space Extraction (both on Wii), I start to think of it as "casual game". "What a stupid and dumb game this is. What were they thinking?" I don't think that I am alone with this line of thinking. I am also pretty sure that many people use the term "casual games" deliberately to direct an insult towards someone else without it coming off as an insult. Stealth trolling so to say. How about you? What does "casual games" mean to you? |
casual games are just games that appeal to a broader audience. There just easy pick up and play/party games.How is the term casual games an insult to anyone,That does'nt make any sense once so ever.
| Cross-X said: I don't like to use the term 'Casual Games' coz it has no significant definition for me. This whole mentality of for example, Wii Sports being a 'Casual Game' is just rubbish. I would call it a Party Game where friends and families can get together and play the game. And then there's the fanboy terms where they call the Wii "The Casual Console". I mean... WTF... So then how are games like Mario Galaxy, Mario Party, etc all so called "Casual"? Is it because there's no blood and shooting other humans invovled and not hardcore and hence it's "Casual"??? Rubbish I'd say... |
That's the whole point of a causual game,to appeal to people that normally would'nt play a video game at all,so wii sports is a casual game. It's easy to pick up and play and the whole family can get together and play it. Calling the wii the casual console does'nt mean every single game is casual. Maraio galaxy is a platformer and mario party could be consider casual. The wii appeals to an audience that what not normally play a video game at all. It appeals to women and the elderly. So I could see why people would call the wii a casual console.