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Seece said:
mirgro said:
dtewi said:
mirgro said:

Great to hear there are more advanced nations out there that aren't slowed down by pathetic, antiquated, and obsolete ideas.

That said, I am fine with rights for gays, but I hate it when they try to pass themselves off as "normal." When the human race becomes asexual and you don't need a male and a female for new humans to be made then they can start off with the whole "normal" argument. Until then, I am sorry, but it is not normal.

Having sex for pleasure is not normal since it doesn't create new humans.

I mean, according to you, that's true, right?

No you completely misunderstood what I was saying. They can have as much sex as they want, but there will be no new human mande out of it, hence it can't be normal.

The reason we have evolved sex to be pleasureable was to encourage us to have it and reproduce and make more of our kind. So even theoretically, yes having sex without chance at reproduction is not normal.

SO hetro sex with a condom isn't normal?

You don't know people who have gotten pregnant despite using condoms, IUDs, diaphragms, etc.?

Man you must know some hella lucky people. Basically, your basic assunption is extremely wrong, so your argument fails. So yes, it's normal. Meanwhile even if homosexual sex involves any number of contraceptives, hell even without using them, there is 0% chance, a literal 0% chance at any conception. Hence, not normal at all.

Have sex witho whoever you want and whoever many people you want, I really don't care. However don't try to pass some things which are not normal as normal because that's more likely for me to go with "no right at all" instead of "rights for everyone." If I had to choose between homosexuality being normal and no rights whatsoever for homosexuals, I'd go with the latter. Thankfully the world doesn't work solely with black and white.



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Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

Don't try to pull off that passive aggressive bullshit. We're not the ones saying that homophobia is genetic.

You have yet to prove that it is. You only proved that there are natural instincts.

Do you have any reason to claim that it is genetic?

I already presented some of my reasons. Read my posts. Homophobia being prevalent during all of mankinds history for example.

That's horse manure. Just as an example, classical Greek society actually elevated homosexual relationships as being more pure than heterosexual ones, and classical Japanese society saw nothing particularly wrong with men sexing up young boys.



mirgro said:

 If I had to choose between homosexuality being normal and no rights whatsoever for homosexuals, I'd go with the latter.

What? Why? Why would you.... what?



Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
dtewi said:

Don't try to pull off that passive aggressive bullshit. We're not the ones saying that homophobia is genetic.

You have yet to prove that it is. You only proved that there are natural instincts.

Do you have any reason to claim that it is genetic?

I already presented some of my reasons. Read my posts. Homophobia being prevalent during all of mankinds history for example.

That's horse manure. Just as an example, classical Greek society actually elevated homosexual relationships as being more pure than heterosexual ones, and classical Japanese society saw nothing particularly wrong with men sexing up young boys.

Someone really should take a look at it, because as far as i know it's only the Judeo-Christian tradition that has a particular grudge against homosexuality, and that largely stems from this strong sense of self-preservation among the ancient Hebrews (and other Semitic tribes), that also caused them to ban a lot of other things

(and it wasn't an issue of: homosexuality is bad because it's not reproductively effecient, but rather homosexuality is bad because that's what the other cultures around us do, and we're not like them, same reason they won't eat shellfish. It also may have had something to do with preserving civil order, as adult men were almost always married, so them having sex with each other was going to lead to family fueds and such)

Point being, what have other societies actually said. We've here described the Semites, Mediterraneans, and Japanese, but what of the Chinese, Indians, Africans, and Native Americans?



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Khuutra said:
mirgro said:

 If I had to choose between homosexuality being normal and no rights whatsoever for homosexuals, I'd go with the latter.

What? Why? Why would you.... what?


If I had to choose between homosexuals having rights and having homosexuality being considered as normal, and not giving homosexuals any of the heterosexual rights, I would go with not giving them the rights. What part of it did you not understand?



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mirgro said:
Khuutra said:
mirgro said:

 If I had to choose between homosexuality being normal and no rights whatsoever for homosexuals, I'd go with the latter.

What? Why? Why would you.... what?


If I had to choose between homosexuals having rights and having homosexuality being considered as normal, and not giving homosexuals any of the heterosexual rights, I would go with not giving them the rights. What part of it did you not understand?

You're definition of "normal" is highly flawed.



Boutros said:
mirgro said:
Khuutra said:
mirgro said:

 If I had to choose between homosexuality being normal and no rights whatsoever for homosexuals, I'd go with the latter.

What? Why? Why would you.... what?


If I had to choose between homosexuals having rights and having homosexuality being considered as normal, and not giving homosexuals any of the heterosexual rights, I would go with not giving them the rights. What part of it did you not understand?

You're definition of "normal" is highly flawed.


No I am actually fairly sure it is very accurate. For non-asexual species for a normal pair, couple, etc. to a be normal pair, couple, etc. they would need to be able to produce another of its species. Homosexuals can't hence not normal. When humans begin reproducing asexually, I can reconsider.



Boutros said:

Adoption really? I don't know if that's so good for the child. But yeah I don't know lol

Hahahaha. Maybe if the kid is a boy he'll have two manly dads.



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

its been confirmed today that GT5 has a weather system, track editor and go karts! seriously i think this is going to be the best selling in the series even beating GT3 sales of 14 million plus!

Can men and women still mary there?



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Oh good he's banned.

Your posts were "abnormal" so you got banned nerner