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GodOfWar_3ever on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
kowenicki said:
phinch1 said:
kowenicki said:

its a leap to think people that watch top gear have an interest in gaming.

Of the half dozen guys I am in business with, all of which watch top gear, only one is interested in gaming... me.    The rest have zero interest.  I also think the star in a car test track section is the least interesting and amusing part of the whole show.


its a leap to think that the other 349,999,994 viewers have the same lack of interest in games as your friends.

@OT  of course they will show it on Top gear if they have before they certainly will now that they are in it.
They advertise and promote a fair bit. like when guy ritchie came on they showed the trailer for his new film or katy price's new book they talk into it a bit.

Yes it is... but I didnt say that did I.  The point was that the demographic of the Top Gear viewers and gamers are not in any way linked and so I doubt it would makes much difference.

I will bet you any amount of money that Top Gear do NOT "advertise and promote a fair bit", your analogy of the stars promoting their latest film or book is irrelevant, it is the star promoting their book/movie not top gear.

What they may do is a feature where perhaps they get Stig to drive a car around a track and then Jeremy may 'drive' the same virtual car around the track at the same time. That will be the only type of thing they would be allowed to do. 

Think of it this way - 350 million "potential" buyers.

Everyone on the planet is a "potential" buyer

 

But these 350 million people would be aware of GT5.



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phinch1 on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:
phinch1 said:
kowenicki said:
phinch1 said:
kowenicki said:

its a leap to think people that watch top gear have an interest in gaming.

Of the half dozen guys I am in business with, all of which watch top gear, only one is interested in gaming... me.    The rest have zero interest.  I also think the star in a car test track section is the least interesting and amusing part of the whole show.


its a leap to think that the other 349,999,994 viewers have the same lack of interest in games as your friends.

@OT  of course they will show it on Top gear if they have before they certainly will now that they are in it.
They advertise and promote a fair bit. like when guy ritchie came on they showed the trailer for his new film or katy price's new book they talk into it a bit.

Yes it is... but I didnt say that did I.  The point was that the demographic of the Top Gear viewers and gamers are not in any way linked and so I doubt it would makes much difference.

I will bet you any amount of money that Top Gear do NOT "advertise and promote a fair bit", your analogy of the stars promoting their latest film or book is irrelevant, it is the star promoting their book/movie not top gear.

What they may do is a feature where perhaps they get Stig to drive a car around a track and then Jeremy may 'drive' the same virtual car around the track at the same time. That will be the only type of thing they would be allowed to do. 

I bet more people watching Top Gear will be more interested in hearing about a game with similarities too what the viewers like such as sports cars and tracks including Top gears own test track with stig, than katie price's book  bloody book.

if its not what you were hinting at then I don't know why you added your mates aren't interested in games, it was clearly an irreivant comment.


It was as relevant as saying 350m watch it and may be interested in GT5.

I'd also argue that Top gear is more of a light entertainment program these days than a motoring show - they even admit that themselves.  It has zero to do with "motorsport and tracks" for example.  Its a program that tries to entertain, usually in a humerous way, where cars are a part of that entertainment.   

Top Gear has changed a great deal over the years I have watched it.  Fifth gear on Channel 5 is more what Top gear used to be, but even that is now trying to do a "Top Gear" recently.


Top gear has changed a fair bit and has gone more entertainment, but at heart its still about cars from top end sports cars to average cars , I still think it would be a good idea to have it on the show, like maybe do the Top gear track in replay mode with exactly the same camera angles side by side and compare with with an actual track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr5zu4bE3jw

- kind of like that, but with the same camera angles as when they show stig round the lap.



Severance on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:

its a leap to think people that watch top gear have an interest in gaming.

Of the half dozen guys I am in business with, all of which watch top gear, only one is interested in gaming... me.    The rest have zero interest.  I also think the star in a car test track section is the least interesting and amusing part of the whole show.


hey now , what have you thought when kenict was shown on Cirque du soleil i bet its somewhere along the lines of "Epic Win!", atleast Top Gear fans actually know what GT is.



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Scruff7 on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:

its a leap to think people that watch top gear have an interest in gaming.

Of the half dozen guys I am in business with, all of which watch top gear, only one is interested in gaming... me.    The rest have zero interest.  I also think the star in a car test track section is the least interesting and amusing part of the whole show.

Of all the guys i know who watch top gear, all of them have a console of some sort, usually a PS3 or 360 and are big Forza or GT fans.

Anecdotal evidence is anectodal.



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tombi123 on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:

its a leap to think people that watch top gear have an interest in gaming.

Of the half dozen guys I am in business with, all of which watch top gear, only one is interested in gaming... me.    The rest have zero interest.  I also think the star in a car test track section is the least interesting and amusing part of the whole show.


A significant percentage of Top Gears demographic is teenager/young adult males. I don't know any male my age who isn't in to gaming at all. Plus TG has already had Gran Turismo 4 on the show for a ten minute clip. The two demographics definitely cross. 



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Severance on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:
Severance said:
kowenicki said:

its a leap to think people that watch top gear have an interest in gaming.

Of the half dozen guys I am in business with, all of which watch top gear, only one is interested in gaming... me.    The rest have zero interest.  I also think the star in a car test track section is the least interesting and amusing part of the whole show.


hey now , what have you thought when kenict was shown on Cirque du soleil i bet its somewhere along the lines of "Epic Win!", atleast Top Gear fans actually know what GT is.

Actually I thought it was a rather shit publicity stunt.  I see things for what they are you see.  "Top Gear fans know what GT is"?... really?...  MASSIVE  generalisation.

Tell you what..... Top Gear appearance will make 10% of its general non gaming viewing public suddenly go out and buy 35m PS3's and copies of GT5.  Happy now? 

 

its because Top Gear is a car show , and GT is a car game, and GT gets mentioned a lot on Top Gear , and Top Gear gets a lot of mention on GT.

also awww, you are doing all that for me? i am happy !... not really , i don't really care about GT anymore, and i don't care about how much it sells.



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Serious_frusting on 11 July 2010

wow

 

Kow is really on form today lmao



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Doobie_wop on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:
Serious_frusting said:

wow

 

Kow is really on form today lmao


meaning?  All I am saying is that the appearance, or otherwise, of GT on Top gear is all but irrelevant from a sales perspective. 

What do you believe?    

 Any awareness raised about a product is good for sales, it's part of the reason why the Wii is what it is today. Car enthusiast watch Top Gear, GT5 is one of the best driving games that's ever going to be released, what makes you think that maybe 5% of those 350 million people that watch the show won't pick up a PS3 or the game? 



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Doobie_wop on 11 July 2010
kowenicki said:
Doobie_wop said:
kowenicki said:
Serious_frusting said:

wow

 

Kow is really on form today lmao


meaning?  All I am saying is that the appearance, or otherwise, of GT on Top gear is all but irrelevant from a sales perspective. 

What do you believe?    

 Any awareness raised about a product is good for sales, it's part of the reason why the Wii is what it is today. Car enthusiast watch Top Gear, GT5 is one of the best driving games that's ever going to be released, what makes you think that maybe 5% of those 350 million people that watch the show won't pick up a PS3 or the game? 


5%... so you believe that it is possible that the appearaed of Gt5 on Top Gear could cause a spike in PS3 sales of 17m, or that GT5 will have 17m more sales than usual? 

this forum gets crazier by the week...

anyone else agree with doobie?

 I just grabbed a percentage and chucked it in there to make my point about how any sort of awareness would help the game out. I don't like making prediction's when I have nothing to back up my numbers. The debate isn't about how much it will sell, it's if the appearance on the show will benefit the game's sales.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

WIzarDE on 11 July 2010

Wow they have a 350 million audience ?