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It seems like every even year the PS3 has relatively strong sales compared the Xbox 360 during the year but the Xbox 360 has relatively stronger sales during the holidays and every odd year the Xbox 360 relatively better during the year and the PS3 does better during the holidays. Except of course when the PS3 wasn't out.

Year = non holiday. Holiday = late Q3->Q4

2006 -> PS3 not out and the Xbox 360 has a strong holiday.

2007 -> The Xbox 360 has a strong year but the PS3 has a strong holiday.

2008 -> The PS3 has a strong year but the 360 has a strong holiday.

2009 -> The Xbox 360 has a strong year but the PS3 has a strong holiday.

2010 -> The PS3 has a strong year... but the Xbox 360 has started to do better closer to the holiday... to be continued.

It seems that every year for about a year people are certain the PS3 will pass the Xbox 360, then next year people are certain that the PS3 will never pass the Xbox 360... if trends continued. Im not about to rule out the trend of no long term trends continuing and im not about to rule out the possibility it will be broken.

So basicly I think Microsoft will do their massive advertising campaign with Kinect, ESPN, price cuts etc and they will do really well in the holidays because consumer confidence is low and people will pick the cheaper options, Move will be more of a slow burn initially but pick up sometime in 2011 with Sony core games like Killzone 3 and Kinect may slow down at the same time in time for yet another dramatic PS3 price cut for Q3/Q4 2011 so people will be praising how smart/intelligent Microsoft is until of course they change their tunes in the later part of next year like what has always happened. Essentially a repeat of 2008 to 2009...

Agree?

 

 



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no i see this year ps3 wining back to back holidays and ending all this back and forth stuff but it will be close like in 07



                                                             

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BHR-3 said:

no i see this year ps3 wining back to back holidays and ending all this back and forth stuff but it will be close like in 07

O7 also had a Halo, maybe... it would be funny if this year was a break in the pattern. I certainly wish it were so because its kind of getting boring and making people afraid to state a position either way given the previous changeability.



The fact that Move and Kinect don't really compete with each other, but both attack different features of Wii, the staggered releases of their novelties, and the huge attention both MS and Sony  are gathering, all this makes me think that they could have realized their previous strategies only benefitted a third commpetitor and secretly agreed to stop fighting each other and start attacking Wii on two fronts.



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No, I think Kinect will blow Move out of the water. Basically, the hardware sales the Xbox 360 will receive from Kinect during the holiday will make Sony's Move reminiscent of the Virtual Boy.

Grant Turismo 5 will not make much of a difference either in the Americas market as racing games are more a fascination of the Europeans.

Xbox 360 due to the massive marketing push for the Kinect will produce another win for the 360 during the holidays.

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Killiana1a said:

No, I think Kinect will blow Move out of the water. Basically, the hardware sales the Xbox 360 will receive from Kinect during the holiday will make Sony's Move reminiscent of the Virtual Boy.

Grant Turismo 5 will not make much of a difference either in the Americas market as racing games are more a fascination of the Europeans.

Xbox 360 due to the massive marketing push for the Kinect will produce another win for the 360 during the holidays.

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all of kinect's titles was humiliating and your point is what exactly, btw re5 is shown in there, yes move has hardcore games jealous much??

even wii has hardcore games like zelda and metroid, where all kinects titles are all like the third party party game offerings on the wii.

I own a wii at the moment but I am upgrading to ps3&move when it comes out.



WilliamWatts said:

It seems like every even year the PS3 has relatively strong sales compared the Xbox 360 during the year but the Xbox 360 has relatively stronger sales during the holidays and every odd year the Xbox 360 relatively better during the year and the PS3 does better during the holidays. Except of course when the PS3 wasn't out.

Year = non holiday. Holiday = late Q3->Q4

2006 -> PS3 not out and the Xbox 360 has a strong holiday.

2007 -> The Xbox 360 has a strong year but the PS3 has a strong holiday.

2008 -> The PS3 has a strong year but the 360 has a strong holiday.

2009 -> The Xbox 360 has a strong year but the PS3 has a strong holiday.

2010 -> The PS3 has a strong year... but the Xbox 360 has started to do better closer to the holiday... to be continued.

It seems that every year for about a year people are certain the PS3 will pass the Xbox 360, then next year people are certain that the PS3 will never pass the Xbox 360... if trends continued. Im not about to rule out the trend of no long term trends continuing and im not about to rule out the possibility it will be broken.

So basicly I think Microsoft will do their massive advertising campaign with Kinect, ESPN, price cuts etc and they will do really well in the holidays because consumer confidence is low and people will pick the cheaper options, Move will be more of a slow burn initially but pick up sometime in 2011 with Sony core games like Killzone 3 and Kinect may slow down at the same time in time for yet another dramatic PS3 price cut for Q3/Q4 2011 so people will be praising how smart/intelligent Microsoft is until of course they change their tunes in the later part of next year like what has always happened. Essentially a repeat of 2008 to 2009...

Agree?

 

 

I own a wii as well but even I could see that in 2009- so far in 2010 ps3>>x360

Anyway from what I have seen GT5 is coming out soon, KInect will only sell to americans so gt5 will allow ps3>>x360 but only in EMEAA and Japan (ww sales will be more than x360).

I think that Kinect is just a more advanced eyetoy copy to be honest and I can't see wii users wanting to upgrade to a 360 and then paying $140 for an advanced eyetoy.

The same applies for the move wii users will look on it as a copy(of wiiremote), even though it's more precise and has augmented reality, they Wont be upgrading and paying out $399(ps3 and psmove) for it. I am an exception as I actually want the ps move for the better precision and augmented reality, I like realistic games, and to be honest the wii let me down on it's promise, even after wm plus came out the support for it has been really poor, so I am upgrading to ps3 and ps move come september.



As far as we know, MS is still using very badly Kinect's potential, properly used it could grab half of Wii Balance Board's market.

Sony is conservative for Move, old EyeToy-like games plus attempts at making HD hardcores accept motion control. It could be an intelligent move, as while Kinect offers what Balance Board can't, Move is very similar to WiiMote plus WMPlus, so a direct competition with it couldn't give great results, while trying to get market segments relatively untapped by Wii, or where Playstation was already present, so not starting from scratch, could pay a lot better.

MS must show us great games for Kinect that are better played moving the whole body and without a controller in our hands, then Kinect will become a new Balance Board.



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A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


I see Microsoft confusing it's confusing it's fanbase by marketing the hell out of Kinect. I see them confusing potential casuals by marketing the hell out of Halo, Call of Duty, etc.

I see Sony releasing GT5 and increasing hardware in Europe and Japan. I don't see move causing any noticeable change in hardware initially, although it may in the long run I don't know. I suspect current trends to continue and Ps3 continues to outsell 360, only more because of the holiday. 

I think the trends will stop and PS3 catches 360 by late 2011.



PS_Move said:
WilliamWatts said:

It seems like every even year the PS3 has relatively strong sales compared the Xbox 360 during the year but the Xbox 360 has relatively stronger sales during the holidays and every odd year the Xbox 360 relatively better during the year and the PS3 does better during the holidays. Except of course when the PS3 wasn't out.

Year = non holiday. Holiday = late Q3->Q4

2006 -> PS3 not out and the Xbox 360 has a strong holiday.

2007 -> The Xbox 360 has a strong year but the PS3 has a strong holiday.

2008 -> The PS3 has a strong year but the 360 has a strong holiday.

2009 -> The Xbox 360 has a strong year but the PS3 has a strong holiday.

2010 -> The PS3 has a strong year... but the Xbox 360 has started to do better closer to the holiday... to be continued.

It seems that every year for about a year people are certain the PS3 will pass the Xbox 360, then next year people are certain that the PS3 will never pass the Xbox 360... if trends continued. Im not about to rule out the trend of no long term trends continuing and im not about to rule out the possibility it will be broken.

So basicly I think Microsoft will do their massive advertising campaign with Kinect, ESPN, price cuts etc and they will do really well in the holidays because consumer confidence is low and people will pick the cheaper options, Move will be more of a slow burn initially but pick up sometime in 2011 with Sony core games like Killzone 3 and Kinect may slow down at the same time in time for yet another dramatic PS3 price cut for Q3/Q4 2011 so people will be praising how smart/intelligent Microsoft is until of course they change their tunes in the later part of next year like what has always happened. Essentially a repeat of 2008 to 2009...

Agree?

 

 

I own a wii as well but even I could see that in 2009- so far in 2010 ps3>>x360

Anyway from what I have seen GT5 is coming out soon, KInect will only sell to americans so gt5 will allow ps3>>x360 but only in EMEAA and Japan (ww sales will be more than x360).

I think that Kinect is just a more advanced eyetoy copy to be honest and I can't see wii users wanting to upgrade to a 360 and then paying $140 for an advanced eyetoy.

The same applies for the move wii users will look on it as a copy(of wiiremote), even though it's more precise and has augmented reality, they Wont be upgrading and paying out $399(ps3 and psmove) for it. I am an exception as I actually want the ps move for the better precision and augmented reality, I like realistic games, and to be honest the wii let me down on it's promise, even after wm plus came out the support for it has been really poor, so I am upgrading to ps3 and ps move come september.


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