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vlad321 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
vlad321 said:

I think the people at Blizzard that aren't working on the core games are brain dead and retarded. First the pile of shit that Bnet 2.0 is, now this? Really? How stupid can someone get?


the news made me go "Wat"


Maybe the people with the ideas are all 70 years old and don't know jack shit about the internet? That or they have downs? Or were dropped on their heads as children? Those are the only 3 excuses I can think of that doesn't make the people at Blizzard utter and complete idiots.


I think it's a good idea. It will make people not act  like complete arses.

Would you post what you just said under your real name?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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lol, so many big forum talkers on WOW are going to get busted out and made fun of for being "ugly" because they are on facebook.

Honestly, I do see a downside to this. It is going to cause a lot of people a lot of pain.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
vlad321 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
vlad321 said:

I think the people at Blizzard that aren't working on the core games are brain dead and retarded. First the pile of shit that Bnet 2.0 is, now this? Really? How stupid can someone get?


the news made me go "Wat"


Maybe the people with the ideas are all 70 years old and don't know jack shit about the internet? That or they have downs? Or were dropped on their heads as children? Those are the only 3 excuses I can think of that doesn't make the people at Blizzard utter and complete idiots.


I think it's a good idea. It will make people not act  like complete arses.

Would you post what you just said under your real name?

I would. Idiots are idiots whether it's anonymous or not. Maybe you haven't noticed but my real name is in my user name, so your failure at your rhetorical question reaches epic proportions.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:


Because facebook is topped to the brim with unreasonable people who know how to use the internet, right? As someone already pointed out, given a name one can easily find out your phone, email, address, etc. In fact there is software for it made and it works very damn well.

So they would have all the access anyone who meets you in real life, and understands how to use a phone book. Now someone on the battle.net forums can get access to publicly available information.The horror. What, exactly, goes wrong from there?



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

Gnizmo said:
vlad321 said:


Because facebook is topped to the brim with unreasonable people who know how to use the internet, right? As someone already pointed out, given a name one can easily find out your phone, email, address, etc. In fact there is software for it made and it works very damn well.

So they would have all the access anyone who meets you in real life, and understands how to use a phone book. Now someone on the battle.net forums can get access to publicly available information.The horror. What, exactly, goes wrong from there?

Maybe you haven't been around the internet long enough to know the astound amount of idiots, retards, or crazies that hang around it. I'd rather not have them know me. Or give me a machine with which I can beat people senseless through the internet so those types stay at bay.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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vlad321 said:

I would. Idiots are idiots whether it's anonymous or not. Maybe you haven't noticed but my real name is in my user name, so your failure at your rhetorical question reaches epic proportions.

If you have your real name available, then why does it matter if it is available in another forum?



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

Gnizmo said:
vlad321 said:

I would. Idiots are idiots whether it's anonymous or not. Maybe you haven't noticed but my real name is in my user name, so your failure at your rhetorical question reaches epic proportions.

If you have your real name available, then why does it matter if it is available in another forum?


Read the post above you.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:

Maybe you haven't been around the internet long enough to know the astound amount of idiots, retards, or crazies that hang around it. I'd rather not have them know me. Or give me a machine with which I can beat people senseless through the internet so those types stay at bay.

The same is true of real life. The difference is those people can realistically do you physical harm with minimal effort as they live near areas you go to. I notice a distinct lack of specifics in this post.



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

Gnizmo said:
vlad321 said:

Maybe you haven't been around the internet long enough to know the astound amount of idiots, retards, or crazies that hang around it. I'd rather not have them know me. Or give me a machine with which I can beat people senseless through the internet so those types stay at bay.

The same is true of real life. The difference is those people can realistically do you physical harm with minimal effort as they live near areas you go to. I notice a distinct lack of specifics in this post.


Or in real life if something happens I can easily do them harm as well. Not so much if they are off in kansas plotting. Also spam, harassment, in fact here you go someone already wrote all this for me, and since I am sure you haven't even bothered to read the news in question:

I just got off the phone with Blizzard's Technical Support (nice gentleman who helped answer my questions by the way) so now I feel a bit more secure about making this post. Also the 30 minute hold time gave me a few moments to gather my thoughts so I can speak thoughtfully without fear or anger leaking through.

Before I voice my opinion I will state that I have a recorded converstion from a Blizzard employee saying that the posts made today and before the new Real ID system goes into place on these forums WILL NOT show our information. Only posts made after Real ID is put into the forums will have this information.

This new system is a horrible idea. There are already well over 80 pages of people stating their ideas on this subject so I doubt what I say will be heared but I will try to present my arguments against Real ID in the hopes that someone will listen.

1. UNIQUE NAMES: Some people (including my husband for one) have very unique names. The linking of a person's real name if you have a common name is less troublesome because that person would be hard to track with a name alone, but if you have a name that is very uncommon linking it to a public forum is very invasive to that person. It could lead to that person being harrassed or annoyed (I will not overreact and use the word stalked) while trying to interact with their hobby.

People play this game for relaxation on their off time. But, for example, if you had a unique name and applied for a job and the potential employer googled your name and found posts on a gaming forum they may not hire you because they have ill conceved notions about gamers. In this exaple the employer may be working off an unfair stereotype but it still would hinder that person getting a job. And FYI without a job that person wouldn't be able to have the money to play WoW. Just a thought Blizzard.


2. COMMON NAMES: For those on the other side of the fence having a fairly common name can also lead to harrassment in a different way. You could be mistaken for someone else entirely and that can lead to confusion not only on the forums themselves but also outside of them.

The last thing I need is someone tracking me down via a google search of my fairly common name, getting my WoW info because I asked a question on a forum about a game I paly for fun, and contacting my character in game, or on the forums to yell at me about alamony payments when I dont have a ex-husband.


3. GENDER: As a female this one bothers me a lot. Not only do I not want to be petitioned by random people for cyberlovin while I am playing a game, but more importantly I do not want to be a target offline. Most males my not understand the fear women have in today's world about this but it is a real and genuine threat that does, sadly, happen. Women are stalked, hurt, even killed every day and we are taught from a young age to be careful and cautious when dealing with the unknown (aka strangers and the internet). It is a terrible reality about our society and I wish it wasn't so but fact is it happens.

I have been occasionaly harrassed while in game for cyberlovin (can not use the real words they use due to being banned on the forums if I do) and I have reported it when it does and Blizzard has never done a thing about it (repeat violations in some cases and their toons are still in the game with no reprocussions). I can't imagine what would happen if more of these perverts knew I was an actual girl. I shudder the think about it.

4. MINORS: Similar to the gender issue. There are minors that play this game and giving out their information to the general public is a bad idea. Even people who are 'adults' aka 18, 19, 20 can still be very impressionable and giving out their real names to the world wide web can only lead to trouble.

5. IDENTITY THIEFT: I know you can't steal a persons ID with ONLY their name but hainvg someone's full name is a great place to start.

6. WoW CRAZIES: Most people who paly this game are what would be classified as 'casuals'. But some people take this game way to seriously. I have been shocked and even fealful of a few of the players I have come across and giving them the ability to track me down and potentally harm me because I beat them in a duel frightens me.

7. INTERNET CRAZIES: Even worse these are the stalkers and child molesters that pray on people on the internet. I dont want then to have access to my full name!

8. SPAMMERS: Giving the internet as a whole your information can lead to spamming and flooding of your e-mail.facebook, exc even more then it is already. Gold sellers are going to have a hayday with this one.

If your name was Jerry Sienfled and you had a wow forum post I bet you ever single variation of your name at most popular e-mail hosters is going to be flooded with fake Blizzard emails. JerrySiefeld@hotmail, @gmail, @yahoo, exc. and now the gold sellers and hackers will have a way to customize those fake mails to your real name! Dear Jerry, We at Blizzard are please to announce you are in the beta! Please visit our fakelink to get your account hacked.

9. SAFETY OF BLIZZARD: Just like giving out a real name to fellow players is a bad idea, giving out the names of all your forum moderators is just as bad or worse! Your poilcy now is to have your phone representatives only use their first names for thier own safety (remember I recorded the conversation) and now you are going to change that! You could have an employee tracked down this way and come to serious harm. Not safe or smart.

So what can you do instead of using a person's full name? How aobut only being allowed to post on one toon? You have to pick a toon and that is that. Or using a set handle? Set up Real ID with this and I would use it in game as well.

And for all the people who say the forums are optional I will remind you that I pay the same subscripion fee that you do and so limiting what I can do with it doesn't seem like the most fair solution. I feel I should be able to use the forums to get information and to share ideas. I agree the trolls are a pain but there has to be a better more secure way then this.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

@ Gnizmo & Zenfoldor

Why did not change your nicknames to real ones, guys?

Lead the way! xD