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shio said:

Everyone stopped counting, but this website didn't. 44 People left Infinity Ward amid broken promises, bad environment and stress caused by Activision. Almost 60% of Infinity Ward's Developers left, and rumors of IW's death is stronger than ever.

(3 of 10) 30% of animators/technical animators/mocap people are gone
(7 of 22) 32% of artists/concept artists are gone
(16 of 23) 69% of designers and scripters are gone
(11 of 15) 73% of engineers are gone
(5 of 5) 100% of writers are gone
(13 of 16) 82% of leads/directors from these departments combined are gone

 

In a recession, you can fill all those back up quite quickly. There is no shortage of unemployed technocrats.

Infinity Ward and Activision Blizzard will thrive due to COD: Black Ops selling at least 3 to 5 million, StarCraft 2 selling in the tens of millions, and Diablo 3 selling in the tens of millions. It is harder to gauge how WoW: Cataclysm will sell due to WoW entering it's 6th year.

As for the Infinity Ward founders, West and Zampella, who left and founded Respawn with EA as their publisher, I don't ever see them releasing a game that will come close to the magic of the COD series.



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Killiana1a said:
shio said:

Everyone stopped counting, but this website didn't. 44 People left Infinity Ward amid broken promises, bad environment and stress caused by Activision. Almost 60% of Infinity Ward's Developers left, and rumors of IW's death is stronger than ever.

(3 of 10) 30% of animators/technical animators/mocap people are gone
(7 of 22) 32% of artists/concept artists are gone
(16 of 23) 69% of designers and scripters are gone
(11 of 15) 73% of engineers are gone
(5 of 5) 100% of writers are gone
(13 of 16) 82% of leads/directors from these departments combined are gone

 

In a recession, you can fill all those back up quite quickly. There is no shortage of unemployed technocrats.

Infinity Ward and Activision Blizzard will thrive due to COD: Black Ops selling at least 3 to 5 million, StarCraft 2 selling in the tens of millions, and Diablo 3 selling in the tens of millions. It is harder to gauge how WoW: Cataclysm will sell due to WoW entering it's 6th year.

As for the Infinity Ward founders, West and Zampella, who left and founded Respawn with EA as their publisher, I don't ever see them releasing a game that will come close to the magic of the COD series.

I don't think it's about whether or not they can find people to replace those who quit.  Different sets of people interact differently, and the old Infinity Ward seemed to have a good mix of staff that worked well together and managed to get their games right time and again.  When you lose more than half the company's staff and their experience, and are forced to replace them with outsiders whose chemistry together is completely unknown, there's little chance that they can hang onto the essence of the old team, for want of a better term to describe it.  Imagine if half the people at your office suddenly quit, and you were forced to learn how to get along with a whole new set of colleagues, or half of all your university professors/teachers quit, and you don't have a single course in the coming semester with anyone you know you understand.

That said, I agree that West and Zampella may never recapture the quality of the Call of Duty team, since they also ended up with less than half of the team.



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Kenny said:
Killiana1a said:
shio said:

Everyone stopped counting, but this website didn't. 44 People left Infinity Ward amid broken promises, bad environment and stress caused by Activision. Almost 60% of Infinity Ward's Developers left, and rumors of IW's death is stronger than ever.

(3 of 10) 30% of animators/technical animators/mocap people are gone
(7 of 22) 32% of artists/concept artists are gone
(16 of 23) 69% of designers and scripters are gone
(11 of 15) 73% of engineers are gone
(5 of 5) 100% of writers are gone
(13 of 16) 82% of leads/directors from these departments combined are gone

 

In a recession, you can fill all those back up quite quickly. There is no shortage of unemployed technocrats.

Infinity Ward and Activision Blizzard will thrive due to COD: Black Ops selling at least 3 to 5 million, StarCraft 2 selling in the tens of millions, and Diablo 3 selling in the tens of millions. It is harder to gauge how WoW: Cataclysm will sell due to WoW entering it's 6th year.

As for the Infinity Ward founders, West and Zampella, who left and founded Respawn with EA as their publisher, I don't ever see them releasing a game that will come close to the magic of the COD series.

I don't think it's about whether or not they can find people to replace those who quit.  Different sets of people interact differently, and the old Infinity Ward seemed to have a good mix of staff that worked well together and managed to get their games right time and again.  When you lose more than half the company's staff and their experience, and are forced to replace them with outsiders whose chemistry together is completely unknown, there's little chance that they can hang onto the essence of the old team, for want of a better term to describe it.  Imagine if half the people at your office suddenly quit, and you were forced to learn how to get along with a whole new set of colleagues, or half of all your university professors/teachers quit, and you don't have a single course in the coming semester with anyone you know you understand.

That said, I agree that West and Zampella may never recapture the quality of the Call of Duty team, since they also ended up with less than half of the team.


That said, they seem to have taken the most pivotal staff and the higher ups/creative staff. I think they'll have a far better time as they're probably also the most loyal staff and people who they've probably been working with the longest. Activision of course have the IP which financially means the world, but for IW as a development studio, they need to find new development leaders and middle management which can have a huge effect on the team as a whole.

Also, Killiana1a, IW aren't working on CoD: Black Ops. They may not even work on the next CoD title as it seems Activision want to move Treyarch as the primary CoD studio due to the need to rebuild IW.



Killiana1a said:
shio said:

Everyone stopped counting, but this website didn't. 44 People left Infinity Ward amid broken promises, bad environment and stress caused by Activision. Almost 60% of Infinity Ward's Developers left, and rumors of IW's death is stronger than ever.

(3 of 10) 30% of animators/technical animators/mocap people are gone
(7 of 22) 32% of artists/concept artists are gone
(16 of 23) 69% of designers and scripters are gone
(11 of 15) 73% of engineers are gone
(5 of 5) 100% of writers are gone
(13 of 16) 82% of leads/directors from these departments combined are gone

 

In a recession, you can fill all those back up quite quickly. There is no shortage of unemployed technocrats.

Infinity Ward and Activision Blizzard will thrive due to COD: Black Ops selling at least 3 to 5 million, StarCraft 2 selling in the tens of millions, and Diablo 3 selling in the tens of millions. It is harder to gauge how WoW: Cataclysm will sell due to WoW entering it's 6th year.

As for the Infinity Ward founders, West and Zampella, who left and founded Respawn with EA as their publisher, I don't ever see them releasing a game that will come close to the magic of the COD series.

In a recession, you won't find people with the experience and leadership as the top guys that left IW. Companies hold on to those guys as much as possible in a recession.

Without those guys, Acitivision will be forced to get guys with little experience/leadership into a studio plagued by stress, bad environment, and being restrained creatively by Activision.

Respawn may very well do a better, creative and innovative game, because EA won't try to kill their creative freedom.



phinch1 said:

Not really, im not even buying the next COD tbh I'ts fun for online play and thats about it, but i have plenty of other COD games to play my mates on that are exactly the same WAW MW1 MW2 etc I don't want another overpriced game and over priced map packs where online will be over run by cheats, ill start playing MW2 online again when black-ops comes out because i know all the cheaters will plauge there.

I just wish more people played operation flashpoint online, that game is genius! and worth it

Dont count on it, I went on Call of Duty 4 about a month ago and in my first game there was this one guy who everytime I shot him my controller disconnected.



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people can be replaced. zing!!!!!!!!! lol



some people here don't seem to understand it's not the company that makes good games, it's the people within, no matter who they replace, the old IW is dead, be it a good thing or a bad thing, we'll find out eventually and soon. They did make Medal of Honor before CoD, and now they just might make something good again, though I doubt PC centric at this point, in which they can just go burn in hell for all I care.



dahuman said:

some people here don't seem to understand it's not the company that makes good games, it's the people within, no matter who they replace, the old IW is dead, be it a good thing or a bad thing, we'll find out eventually and soon. They did make Medal of Honor before CoD, and now they just might make something good again, though I doubt PC centric at this point, in which they can just go burn in hell for all I care.

Right on the money.