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kowenicki said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:

and not only that...  once you pay out for the new TV and the glasses how much content is there available?

next to none.

How many 3d movies are actually worth watching again?  less than a handful.

how many of those are out now on a 3d blu-ray? none.

how many tv channels are broadcasting 3d regularly right now or soon?  none.

how many 3d games are out right now and will be out within the next 6 months?

 


Seriously, what is the point of that post. Weren't we having the same post aboout HD, BLU-RAY, DVD, you should know that's always something that happens with new technology.

And 3D is not a Sony product, they are pushing it hard, but you can actually support it.

Its different to the HD, Blu-ray and DVD option though.  I adopted those as soon as I could.

I think I am a good barometer here, I love a gadget, new tech, im a gadget whore... but I am totally unconvinced by this.

It has nothing to do with sony pushing it, and everything to do with Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, Philips and all the other tech companies hoping we fall for this too early and bail them out of a hole they dug for themselves.

I aint biting and I doubt many others will in the next 12 months.

Bring on glassless Tv's and see adoption soar.  But thats a while off.

You really don't do any research for an early adopter, 3D galessless is here, it's just vey expensive. It's coming to the masses as soon as prices comes down. 3D is here to stay just like Blu-ray, that failure (Lol).

thats what i said!!  lol

check out my posts in the last two days... i actually linked people to glassless 3d tv demo's and news.

So if they are coming "soon as prices come down"... then why buy a 3dtv that needs glasses now only to replace it "soon" with a glassless set? 

btw can you link me to a site where I can buy a glassless tv?  "3d glassless is here"

 

Duh, people are buying DS now with 3DS coming soon, that's life. I never buy these types of technolgy at first, I remember the $1000 blu-ray or the $10, 000 HD tv, thngs I would never get. I don't get 3D either, it's more of a gimmick anyway which has help many bad movies make decent money. People went in wave to SEE Avatar in 3D but failto realize behind the 3D is a very avarage movie to me.

But, the way these companies are pushing it, it's bound to be coming to the massess soon.



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Lol. Very funny infact I cant see whats bad on this survey. Almost 70% dont want an 3D Tv yet and the problems are Price not much content and stupid glassess ?

 

That survey tells us that 20% are still interested in the Technology despite beeing expensive and not much stuff to watch in 3D. That looks pretty good to me. its always the same when a new technology comes people dont like it 10%-15% are buying it (which would equal a couple of Million TVs already) and then the price comes down there will be tons of content and the 40% will follow in the next years. then we have 40-50% adoption rate and people wont be able to choose anymore since its in all future Televisions if you want it or not.

 

The thing with the stupid glassess is just temporarily people will get used to it pretty fast only problem are people which have glassess already they will be able to buy professional shutterglassess soon which have the correct dioptrin. 

 

3D without glassess wont be available for a longer time. And when its available it will be so damn expensive that 99% people wont buy it especially because I bet in the beginnig the effect wont be as good as with the old 3D technology. And people will say:

 

"Why do I need some of those fancy glassless 3D Tvs if I have my old one which cost me just 400 Dollar with 5 Pair of glassess. I rather save 5000 Dollar and look stupid."



Just because people will get used to and accept the limitations of some products does not mean that they will get used to and accept the limitations of all products. Glasses based 3D has been around for decades and (to this day) people still think that they’re "lame" ... What makes you think that after several decades (and multiple revisions of 3D glasses) with people rejecting the concept of 3D glasses that they're suddenly going to accept them?

What I think is a reasonably fair estimate at this point in time is that 25% of households would probably consider buying a glasses-based 3DTV depending on the cost, quality and available content; and for 75% of households the dependence on 3D glasses makes it a non-starter. With a noticeable premium for 3DTVs and (basically) no 3D content there will (likely) be little reason to buy a 3DTV before 2015 (at the earliest).

Now, over the next 5 years exposure to glasses free 3D displays (like the 3DS and possibly some computer monitors) might make people less likely to accept the limitations of glasses based 3D displays; because they will not see them as a "necessary evil" and may come to the conclusion that glasses free displays in the living room are only a couple of years off.



HappySqurriel said:

Now, over the next 5 years exposure to glasses free 3D displays (like the 3DS and possibly some computer monitors) might make people less likely to accept the limitations of glasses based 3D displays; because they will not see them as a "necessary evil" and may come to the conclusion that glasses free displays in the living room are only a couple of years off.


Or you know they might think "that 3d is awesome let's buy 3d tv for living room"



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axt113 said:
Boutros said:

http://www.abiresearch.com/press/1203-Consumers Delaying Blu-ray Player Purchases

"A new consumer survey from ABI Research has revealed a widespread reluctance to commit to a Blu-ray player in the near future: over half of the 1000 respondents, citing “other priorities,” say they have no plans to purchase one; a further 23% are likely to buy, but not until sometime in 2009."


Happens all the time with new tech.


Aversion to Glasses on the other hand is not going to change even with time


If that's the case then one can make the same argument that having to upgrade both your audio and video equipment plus accessories and then having to accommodate the space for all of this is also a hassle that's been argued here and in the real world to take advantage of Blu-ray.  So you really don't know.  This whole thread is about trolling anyway because the original article has nothing to do with Nintendo, and if it's bad for SONY, then the same can be said for Samsung since they also make 3D TV's with glasses.



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Zlejedi said:
HappySqurriel said:

Now, over the next 5 years exposure to glasses free 3D displays (like the 3DS and possibly some computer monitors) might make people less likely to accept the limitations of glasses based 3D displays; because they will not see them as a "necessary evil" and may come to the conclusion that glasses free displays in the living room are only a couple of years off.


Or you know they might think "that 3d is awesome let's buy 3d tv for living room"


They might, but I wouldn't anticipate them buying a 3DTV before 2015; and by then an acceptable glasses-free 3DTV may be on the market in a reasonable price range.



kowenicki said:

and not only that...  once you pay out for the new TV and the glasses how much content is there available?

next to none.

How many 3d movies are actually worth watching again?  less than a handful.

how many of those are out now on a 3d blu-ray? none.

how many tv channels are broadcasting 3d regularly right now or soon?  none.

how many 3d games are out right now and will be out within the next 6 months?

 

There you do again with you blatant anti-SONY stand by displaying your bias double standard.  What you describe applies to virtually all successful new tech.  But you have to downplay it when it comes to SONY.  Typical.



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Solid_Snake4RD said:

PSP and DS nowdays outsell each other week on week

its just that because of the PSP piracy the software sales that boost PSP first week go down after few weeks.also Nitendo has been dominant in handheld and has pokemon,mario to save it

Uh, you've got it backwards. The PSP's piracy make people buy the system, regardless of whether they need to buy the software or not. The software sales are irrelevant, since they don't need to buy the game, they just download it. Piracy increases the PSP (hardware) sales. I know people in America that bought the PSP only because they could download games on it.

The DS has its own piracy problems though, so this "advantage" is more or less cancelled out.


On topic, I'm glad people reject the glasses technology, not a big fan of it myself. I can't say I prefer the 3DS, since I've never seen it in action, but I do hope it looks better.



I don't put too much stock into surveys like this anymore, because of the skewing ability of the questions. On the glasses, it could have been phrased "Do you like wearing glasses to watch TV?" or "Are you willing to wear glasses to watch a show in 3D?" And price could be anything from "Do you think the price on 3DTVs is fair?" to "Would you pay the current price for a 3DTV?" to even "Are 3DTVs overpriced in your opinion?" Without knowing the wording of the question to determine the skew, it's kinda meaningless. It's also why when someone else does the same survey (for anything, not just TVs) and gets vastly different results. The truth will be between those 2 sets of data; averaging, while not ideal, would give you a better answer. As things are now, we have nothing to offset this data; I call the pool too small to conclude anything.



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
tarheel91 said:
Killiana1a said:
axt113 said:

Japanese don't like glasses, or expensive TV's

 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/japanese-turned-off-by-3d-glasses

 Of those, almost 70 per cent cited the hassle of wearing special glasses, 57 per cent said prices were too high

If I am not mistaken, the Japanese market is where Sony beats out Nintendo and Microsoft. If this is a true reflection of the market, then Sony may be in a bit of a bind. Sony with the Move will be introducing 3D games in an effort to push the sales of their $3,000 plus 3D televisions and as this article points out, the Japanese consumer on a mass scale will not bite.


10.4 mil Wii to 5.3 mil PS3.

30.7 mil DS to 14.8 PSP.

Huh?


i think he meant when SONY has a good price for PS3 to compete with Nintendo

most of the Wii overhaul sales over PS3 were before PS3 hit $299 last year

and PSP got murdered by piracy but still outsells DS many times

Well.... with half the sales, psp should eventually start outselling the DS....

PSP and DS nowdays outsell each other week on week

its just that because of the PSP piracy the software sales that boost PSP first week go down after few weeks.also Nitendo has been dominant in handheld and has pokemon,mario to save it

Considering Monster Hunter single handedly kept PSP from Dreamcasting in Japan, it's a bit humorous you'd attribute Mario & Pokemon exclusively as "saving" DS.  What about Brain Training, Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, Inazuma Eleven, Dragon Quest, Tomodachi Collection, Final Fantasy, Kirby, Rhythm Heaven or various other Japanese million sellers the platform's had?  How many Japanese million sellers has PSP seen outside Monster Hunter? ;)

DS and PSP piracy are almost equal btw.  The top 20 best selling games on each in Japan had around 20m pirated downloads according to that Famitsu study.  And "nowadays" DS is doubling PSP sales, after it's first Japanese pricedrop ever.