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voty2000 on 05 July 2010
richardhutnik said:
voty2000 said:
Doobie_wop said:

People who have subscribed on Neogaf are saying that there is some notiable lag at some point's and the resolution on some games are completely janky, is it true? This is a picture of Borderland's running on the service that someone posted, for anyone who's played they game, you can tell that it look's pretty bad.


The 360 version looks better than that screen shot.  It's pretty blurry and the game can look much better.

That picture looks like someone drew black lines through it. It is possible that people are scared by the technology, and how it will change things so they go into hater mode.

I did the demo of Borderlands and it looked better than my 360 version of Borderlands to me.

I've only played the 360 version and have no clue about the PC version, but that screenshot is just bad.



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Mythe on 05 July 2010

i wish we could get this in canada.



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disolitude on 05 July 2010
zarx said:
disolitude said:

I see huge potential in this for 3D gaming.

I really don't know the exact details how it works, but I assume its just a video stream which your computer is downloading while you are playing over the net on the fly.

If they partner up with Nvidia or IZ3D and use their drivers and are able to send side by side video signal of the gameplay @ 1080p (720p per frame/eye) which 3D video player on your machine plays in stereoscopic 3D...jackpot! That would really be worthwhile financially and hassle wise as you need big bucks to game in 3D and you got to fiddle with settings for every game.

 

considering they have to heavily compress the 720p video at 30fps currently, the 60fps needed for 3D effect (30fps per eye) and there is no current Internet connection that can deliver that 100% of the time, which is needed because dropped frames in 3D can be a serious problem (more headaches etc) so no I don't think OnLive will support 3D in the next 5 years sorry.

Ah I didn't know it was limited to 720p...

They don't need 60 frames if they can do 1080p. 1080p with 2 images side by side @ 30 frames is enough.  Ot 60 frames @ 720p frame sequential.

It really sounds like a cool tech to be honest, hope it sticks around and evolves in to something.



richardhutnik on 05 July 2010
KylieDog said:

Seems a waste of money.  Better off just upgrading a PC should you need and getting better performance in pretty much every way.

Try the service now and see why "upgrade a PC" just doesn't match up.  OnLive does more than what you get via a PC upgrade.  It provides no headaches for it.  You also get to see video of people playing, and try the games out for a half hour.  It is very easy to get into also. 

Upgrading a PC isn't the answer for everyone, is actually less of the answer for most people.  People don't mess with the internals as much as core PC gamers think they would.



vlad321 on 05 July 2010
richardhutnik said:
KylieDog said:

Seems a waste of money.  Better off just upgrading a PC should you need and getting better performance in pretty much every way.

Try the service now and see why "upgrade a PC" just doesn't match up.  OnLive does more than what you get via a PC upgrade.  It provides no headaches for it.  You also get to see video of people playing, and try the games out for a half hour.  It is very easy to get into also. 

Upgrading a PC isn't the answer for everyone, is actually less of the answer for most people.  People don't mess with the internals as much as core PC gamers think they would.


You also get boring games. Unability to mod. Lag if you don't have good connection, shit graphics, and the list keeps going on and on. Giving out your credit card information when you register also isn't exactly "easy to get into."

I was also mistaken since I didn't read the contract right at first, it wasnt the 2nd year for $5 total, but $5/mo, which I guess is $60 total for the second year. In 2 years I can take the money I save off of OnLive and upgrade my video card so that it new games run flawlessly still.



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zarx on 05 July 2010
Doobie_wop said:

People who have subscribed on Neogaf are saying that there is some notiable lag at some point's and the resolution on some games are completely janky, is it true? This is a picture of Borderland's running on the service that someone posted, for anyone who's played they game, you can tell that it look's pretty bad.

looks like they took the screen when the level first loads, the PC version suffers from some serious texture pop-in as it loads in each level of texture, low, mid, high and then the anisotropic filtering, so for the first 1-5 seconds it looks like crap. and it looks like the compression didn't help.

oh and the PC version did have a glitch where sometimes it would get stuck on the low level textures which was annoying but it was mostly patched but I think it still sometimes happens so that could be why it looks so bad.



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dahuman on 05 July 2010

powerful handhelds with output to HDTV are the future in the long run, then you can game anywhere, we are just not there yet, onlive is not a good solution in the US where many areas don't even have internet or have shitty internet. the penetration rate would blow donkey nuts.



Zlejedi on 05 July 2010
vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
KylieDog said:

Seems a waste of money.  Better off just upgrading a PC should you need and getting better performance in pretty much every way.

Try the service now and see why "upgrade a PC" just doesn't match up.  OnLive does more than what you get via a PC upgrade.  It provides no headaches for it.  You also get to see video of people playing, and try the games out for a half hour.  It is very easy to get into also. 

Upgrading a PC isn't the answer for everyone, is actually less of the answer for most people.  People don't mess with the internals as much as core PC gamers think they would.


You also get boring games. Unability to mod. Lag if you don't have good connection, shit graphics, and the list keeps going on and on. Giving out your credit card information when you register also isn't exactly "easy to get into."

I was also mistaken since I didn't read the contract right at first, it wasnt the 2nd year for $5 total, but $5/mo, which I guess is $60 total for the second year. In 2 years I can take the money I save off of OnLive and upgrade my video card so that it new games run flawlessly still.

5$ is promotional price. IIRC final target is 10 or 15 bucks a month. Now if that price included cost of games it would be ok solution similar to game rental subscription but as you have retail like game prices there's no reason to leave pc gaming for it.



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SleepWaking on 05 July 2010
Zlejedi said:
vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
KylieDog said:

Seems a waste of money.  Better off just upgrading a PC should you need and getting better performance in pretty much every way.

Try the service now and see why "upgrade a PC" just doesn't match up.  OnLive does more than what you get via a PC upgrade.  It provides no headaches for it.  You also get to see video of people playing, and try the games out for a half hour.  It is very easy to get into also. 

Upgrading a PC isn't the answer for everyone, is actually less of the answer for most people.  People don't mess with the internals as much as core PC gamers think they would.


You also get boring games. Unability to mod. Lag if you don't have good connection, shit graphics, and the list keeps going on and on. Giving out your credit card information when you register also isn't exactly "easy to get into."

I was also mistaken since I didn't read the contract right at first, it wasnt the 2nd year for $5 total, but $5/mo, which I guess is $60 total for the second year. In 2 years I can take the money I save off of OnLive and upgrade my video card so that it new games run flawlessly still.

5$ is promotional price. IIRC final target is 10 or 15 bucks a month. Now if that price included cost of games it would be ok solution similar to game rental subscription but as you have retail like game prices there's no reason to leave pc gaming for it.

What?!?! that's ridiculous, now that I know this I can't see how anyone would want to use this service.  



NJ5 on 05 July 2010

Is it really $15 a month plus the cost of the games?

If so, then epic fail no matter how low the lag is (and I'm seeing mixed opinions on the lag).



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