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SmoothCriminal on 02 July 2010
Khuutra said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Khuutra said:

I actually found ME2 to be a superior RPG, too.

From a role-playing perspective, yes. From an upgrading and leveling up perspective, ME1 is far superior.

It is superior in terms of preservation of minutia, but I don't think that makes it a better role-playing game. Streamlining can be an improvement, too. And if we agree that ME2's better for actual role-playing...


ME2 was too simple for me, I didn't feel like I was ever making progress. I felt as powerful at the beginning as I did at the end. The weapons got better, but I never felt like my character got better.



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I_hate_Itagaki on 02 July 2010
twesterm said:
Weegee said:
twesterm said:
lestatdark said:
twesterm said:
lestatdark said:
yum123 said:

obviously final fantasy and for good reason people saying other wise are trying to think or some think other than ff i think and listing there favourites


Actually that's quite a naive generalization. Why should FF be synonym to RPG for everyone? Heck, when someone says something about RPG's, there's quite a number of series that I think of before I even consider FF. 

Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals is my favourite game of all time, so it's normal that's the first RPG that I think off or that comes to my mind whenever RPG is mentioned. Parasite Eve comes close at second. 

FF is not the RPG standard.

Just because you don't like it or it's not the best doesn't mean it can't be the standard.  Often it is those things that exactly what something shouldn't be is the standard.  They've become so watered down and everyone knows them and they just become the standard.

For instance, what do you think when I saw musical, Broadway show, or even opera?

Was it Phantom of the Opera or any other Andrew Lord Webber show?  I wouldn't be surprised since most people think that or Cats or Jesus Christ Superstar.  The funny thing about that is that almost everyone that actually likes Broadway shows despises Andrew Lloyd Webber and everything he is.

Whatever the case and however much they despise them, stuff like Phantom of the Opera has become the musical standard.  The same goes for Final Fantasy.


Actually, I think of Spring Awakening faster than Phantom of the Opera crosses my mind. 

In current times, FF is long from being the standard though. Most gamers nowadays know, or care, about RPG's mainly due to MMORPG's, be it by paid subscriptions, or the thousands free ones. WOW is more popular than FF these days.

And i'm speaking as a FF fan and as a person that truly loathes and despises WOW. 

FF had a time when it was the RPG series to top, when it was the RPG series to be compared, when every JRPG developer wanted a piece of the success that FF's where having, and that time was during the PSX- early PS2 era.


Completely off topic, but I saw Spring Awakening when it came to town (Dallas) a few months ago and I could not have been more disappointed.  I've been listening to the sound track for more than five years and have loved it to death.  You could imagine how happy I was when I heard Lea Michelle was going to be in a new TV series and even happier when Jonathan Graff came on.  It finally came to town and it was just a horrible experience.  The venue had sound problems, the actors just weren't that good, the stage direction was just odd and not good, and all in all it just felt like amateur hour.  I still love the music, it's just a shame the show was just so bad.

And until some other series comes out as the king of RPG's like FF did during the PSx/PS2 era, it's the standard.  There have been many great and better RPG's than FFXIII, FFXII, and FFX in the last few years, but they still haven't hit the mainstream yet. 

Hell, I can't even think of another RPG that has had a commercial in the last five years other than Final Fantasy except Mass Effect.  If anything was going to dethrone FF as the standard, I would probably actually say Mass Effect.

As popular as Mass Effect is though, FFXIII still holds that standard as the traditional RPG.

I think you forgot pokemon. Pokemon is the biggest rpg serie of all time but sometime people forget it.

OT : Earthbounds was the first rpg that come in my mind because its my favorite serie.

Pokemon may be an RPG but how many people actually think of it as an RPG?  It's hardly the standard.

Also, I don't think I've ever seen a commerical for a Pokemon video game.

I saw more Pokemon commercial than FF ones.



twesterm on 02 July 2010
SmoothCriminal said:
Khuutra said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Khuutra said:

I actually found ME2 to be a superior RPG, too.

From a role-playing perspective, yes. From an upgrading and leveling up perspective, ME1 is far superior.

It is superior in terms of preservation of minutia, but I don't think that makes it a better role-playing game. Streamlining can be an improvement, too. And if we agree that ME2's better for actual role-playing...


ME2 was too simple for me, I didn't feel like I was ever making progress. I felt as powerful at the beginning as I did at the end. The weapons got better, but I never felt like my character got better.


That's actually a good thing.

One that sucks about a lot of games is it's hard to make the beginning feel as good as the end.  Why should you feel weak in the beginning just because it's the beginning?

Shepard is a badass so why should Shepard be weak in the start of the game?



 

twesterm on 02 July 2010
I_hate_Itagaki said:
twesterm said:

Pokemon may be an RPG but how many people actually think of it as an RPG?  It's hardly the standard.

Also, I don't think I've ever seen a commerical for a Pokemon video game.

I saw more Pokemon commercial than FF ones.


So are there actually Pokemon video game commercials or are you trying to be a smartass?

If so, can you link to them?  I honestly can't think of any Pokemon video game commercials.  I know there where FFXIII commercials and ME2 commercials, but I can't think of any other RPG this generation or even last generation that had a commercial.



 

the_bloodwalker on 02 July 2010

I think of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (SNES)... My first RPG



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I_hate_Itagaki on 02 July 2010
twesterm said:
I_hate_Itagaki said:
twesterm said:
 

Pokemon may be an RPG but how many people actually think of it as an RPG?  It's hardly the standard.

Also, I don't think I've ever seen a commerical for a Pokemon video game.

I saw more Pokemon commercial than FF ones.


So are there actually Pokemon video game commercials or are you trying to be a smartass?

If so, can you link to them?  I honestly can't think of any Pokemon video game commercials.  I know there where FFXIII commercials and ME2 commercials, but I can't think of any other RPG this generation or even last generation that had a commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab26P4omyI0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II6DBfHcqXk&feature=PlayList&p=1232767F70684213&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=52

and look on the side, there is ALOT of them.



Acevil on 02 July 2010

Following Order

RPG=D&D 
JRPG=Pokemon
WRPG=Bioware... (Yes a company...)



 

Weegee on 02 July 2010
twesterm said:
Weegee said:
twesterm said:
lestatdark said:
twesterm said:
lestatdark said:
yum123 said:

obviously final fantasy and for good reason people saying other wise are trying to think or some think other than ff i think and listing there favourites


Actually that's quite a naive generalization. Why should FF be synonym to RPG for everyone? Heck, when someone says something about RPG's, there's quite a number of series that I think of before I even consider FF. 

Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals is my favourite game of all time, so it's normal that's the first RPG that I think off or that comes to my mind whenever RPG is mentioned. Parasite Eve comes close at second. 

FF is not the RPG standard.

Just because you don't like it or it's not the best doesn't mean it can't be the standard.  Often it is those things that exactly what something shouldn't be is the standard.  They've become so watered down and everyone knows them and they just become the standard.

For instance, what do you think when I saw musical, Broadway show, or even opera?

Was it Phantom of the Opera or any other Andrew Lord Webber show?  I wouldn't be surprised since most people think that or Cats or Jesus Christ Superstar.  The funny thing about that is that almost everyone that actually likes Broadway shows despises Andrew Lloyd Webber and everything he is.

Whatever the case and however much they despise them, stuff like Phantom of the Opera has become the musical standard.  The same goes for Final Fantasy.


Actually, I think of Spring Awakening faster than Phantom of the Opera crosses my mind. 

In current times, FF is long from being the standard though. Most gamers nowadays know, or care, about RPG's mainly due to MMORPG's, be it by paid subscriptions, or the thousands free ones. WOW is more popular than FF these days.

And i'm speaking as a FF fan and as a person that truly loathes and despises WOW. 

FF had a time when it was the RPG series to top, when it was the RPG series to be compared, when every JRPG developer wanted a piece of the success that FF's where having, and that time was during the PSX- early PS2 era.


Completely off topic, but I saw Spring Awakening when it came to town (Dallas) a few months ago and I could not have been more disappointed.  I've been listening to the sound track for more than five years and have loved it to death.  You could imagine how happy I was when I heard Lea Michelle was going to be in a new TV series and even happier when Jonathan Graff came on.  It finally came to town and it was just a horrible experience.  The venue had sound problems, the actors just weren't that good, the stage direction was just odd and not good, and all in all it just felt like amateur hour.  I still love the music, it's just a shame the show was just so bad.

And until some other series comes out as the king of RPG's like FF did during the PSx/PS2 era, it's the standard.  There have been many great and better RPG's than FFXIII, FFXII, and FFX in the last few years, but they still haven't hit the mainstream yet. 

Hell, I can't even think of another RPG that has had a commercial in the last five years other than Final Fantasy except Mass Effect.  If anything was going to dethrone FF as the standard, I would probably actually say Mass Effect.

As popular as Mass Effect is though, FFXIII still holds that standard as the traditional RPG.

I think you forgot pokemon. Pokemon is the biggest rpg serie of all time but sometime people forget it.

OT : Earthbounds was the first rpg that come in my mind because its my favorite serie.

Pokemon may be an RPG but how many people actually think of it as an RPG?  It's hardly the standard.

Also, I don't think I've ever seen a commerical for a Pokemon video game.

I'm pretty sure that almost all nintendo fan know that pokemon is a rpg (and there a lots of nintendo fan) and IMO many of them will think 'pokemon' when they hear 'rpg'.

Also, there is a lot of pokemon commercial even back in the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSHOg8PMZ5E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PpxuxRtSs



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dtewi on 02 July 2010

Guys.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE STANDARD.

THIS IS ABOUT THE GAME MOST COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TERM RPG.

Considering today's lexicon and the commercial success and popularity of the series I would have to say Final Fantasy. And most people would associate the term RPG with it too. It may not be the standard, but that's the series that comes to most people's minds when the term RPG is said. Also, many people don't think that Pokemon is an RPG or most don't consider that idea.

It may not be the series that comes to many of your minds, but FF is the series most associated with RPGs.



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Khuutra on 02 July 2010
dtewi said:

Guys.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE STANDARD.

THIS IS ABOUT THE GAME MOST COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TERM RPG.

Considering today's lexicon and the commercial success and popularity of the series I would have to say Final Fantasy. And most people would associate the term RPG with it too. It may not be the standard, but that's the series that comes to most people's minds when the term RPG is said. Also, many people don't think that Pokemon is an RPG or most don't consider that idea.

It may not be the series that comes to many of your minds, but FF is the series most associated with RPGs.

Horse shit.

Dungeons and Dragons is a part of the popular consciousness in the way that Final Fantasy has never been outside of a two-month period in 1997, and even that was about the cutscenes more than anything concerning role-playing.

Region to region, the only place where FF might dominate is in Europe.

Oh, actually, you know what? Not even there.

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