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Forums - Sales - EMEAA Up - 19th June 2010

ethomaz on 26 June 2010

darthdevidem01 said:
No it isn't, that was called people trying to hype up PSP games.

Face the facts!

But Kojima said this "Peace Walker is MGS5".



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Moren on 26 June 2010

why aren't america numbers up yet, they're late



darthdevidem01 on 26 June 2010
ethomaz said:

darthdevidem01 said:
No it isn't, that was called people trying to hype up PSP games.

Face the facts!

But Kojima said this "Peace Walker is MGS5".

Kojima doesn't hype?

Remember "MGS3 will be my last MGs eva!"

Another way to hype a game to get more fans to buy it......thats how I see it.



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Reasonable on 27 June 2010
jarrod said:
Reasonable said:
CGI-Quality said:

Things will get interesting for the next few weeks, particularly for the Xbox 360 (slimmer console/price clearances on older models). It'll likely outsell the PS3 for a good portion of the Summer, with a price cut on the Arcade and Slimmer 360 models of $50 in the Fall, to coincide with Kinect's offering ($149 Arcade without Kinect/$349 Slim 360 including Kinect - to keep it $50-$150 cheaper than the PS3's Move Bundle and the arcade $150 cheaper than a regular $299 PS3), while Kinect will probably sell for $100 on it's own (I've always doubted that $150 price). It'll be up YoY, while things will probably be flat or just a tad above for the PS3 and Wii.

They'll probably be some other bundles of sorts for the 360 & PS3 - $349 Halo Reach Themed Xbox 360 Slim Bundle (possibly two controllers bringing it to $399, but it'll be without Kinect) being one and a $349 GT5 PS3 Bundle (also being without Move).

It'll be interesting to keep an eye on 360 HW vs SW sales and ratios to get an idea how much is upgrading vs new purchase.  I'm quite amazed at how many 360 owners (either from evidence such as pre-orders on trade-ins) to many of my own friends are going to get a Slim.  Of course the same thing happened with the PS3, but I think we might see an even high percentage for the 360.

It's hard to gauge this, as most repeat buyers still recirculate their old systems (traded in, resold themselves or given to friends/family) which keeps tie ratios healthy.  Iwata's actually talked about this phenomenon before with regards to DS... the "core" buy each iterative update, but they recirculate their old system to people who might not necessarily go out and buy a "new" system (but still may purchase new games).


Yah, but with the move to Slim being also the promise of a quieter, more reliable console I'm wondering if the buy-up on older consoles will be less.  It might not, in which case the pattern will be the same as before, with second hand buyers getting a device then buying SW as usual.  But in this case I think there is a reasonable chance we might see some clear signals of whether a different pattern is in effect due to the other circumstances.

I've always wondered about second hand 360 sales and whether they are in line with other devices.  I wouldn't touch one myself due to the chance of getting an early RROD prone model, but of course people wanting to save money want to save money so it's hard to gauge as you say.

If there is no clear change in HW/SW relationship then we can surmize most re-buys have results in the old console finding a new home, if there is we might get a view on the percentage of 360 owners re-buying.

I'm interested more because I get a feeling there is going to be more re-buying here than for any other home console I know - although it may be less than goes on with hand held re-models.



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