Cool, i guess we'll have something to talk about when the next one comes out. by the way my faviourite ST is Voyager, followed by the original series.

Just got demon's souls today went to four shops and they were sold out - I was begining to wonder if it was out in Ireland! Bought the last one in HMV and the woman behind the counter said she sold loads of them.

The game is so hard though, had to stop playing before i broke something. And the football was on...

I've never played Civilization IV, though I have a niggling feeling I should....

Anyway, I am trying to convince my brother to get this because reviews have made it very clear that this is not my game. I hate things which are hard, especially as I take the mentality that it is never my fault and always the games fault and if I take that mindset, it is clear that I will just get pissed off at the game

If you're good I'll let you have Warlords too! (the expansion)

Btw you're a chupachup for pre-ordering anything! Wheres your cheapskate pride?!

Same! Actually I feel like im about the only one who liked Enterprise! I would honestly rate that about 2nd behind Voyager but I don't tend to admit that to people!

Well you can get it on Steam for pretty cheap at the moment. Or alternatively you can jump right in with Civ 5. I don't think it will be any harder to start there, actually probably easier as they are reworking the interface somewhat. Sept 24 is when my life officially ends.. for a while. 

but yeah, it was just a little too anal for my taste too. I have a line in the sand between 'brutal but fair' and 'obscene'. Ninja Gaiden 2 was on the brutal but fair side and Demons Souls was more on the obscene side. I've played wayy too many games in my life to really want to bother with the latter, but the former is always a welcome change of pace. Anyway difficulty is just something which a lot of games do badly, I find its a mark of developer excellence to be about to ensure a consistant/desired level of difficulty throughout.