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bevochan on 24 June 2010

Lots of people are talking about attach rates (stupid math) which doesn't make any sense.  When Halo 3 came out, there wasn't a competing FPS.  Halo Reach is going up against Call of Duty Black Ops this fall, and the last COD sold 10 million on Xbox and 8 million on PS3.  And don't give that crap that this game isn't made by Infinity Ward.  Majority of people in this country have no idea who Infinity Ward or Treyarch are.  Everytime I watch ESPN, Black Ops commercials are plastered during NBA playoffs or Sportscenter.  Typical Americans (the family of 4 with household income 30~K who shop at Walmart) are not going to buy both Black Ops and Halo Reach.  Go ask a non-fanboy:  more people are aware of Black Ops coming out this fall because of the main stream advertising as opposed to Halo Reach.




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MARCUSDJACKSON on 24 June 2010
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Funtime said:

Simple math would dictate that Halo Reach will outsell GT 5 by a fairly large margin barring GT5 getting bundled at some point.

Halo 2 sold 8 million on an install base of 25 million. GT4 sold 14 or so million on an install base of 130 million (roughly).

Halo 3 sold almost 11 million and it launched to an install base of around 18-20 million.

With the current hardware numbers for Sony and MS I don't see how GT has any shot at beating Halo this gen....unless of course it gets bundled.


no not simple math. more like speculation on numbers of a console that dominated.

lets stick to simple facts. GT4 sold 14m. Halo sold 11m (round it off)

most sequals sell beter then there predecessors. so to blow the argument out of the water

GT5 20m GT5 is th onlyone that will move consoles

Halo Reach 15m

it can't be argued cause my mind is made up.

You think GT5 is gonna sell 20 million and Reach is gonna sell 15M o_0


yea sure why not.



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Reasonable on 24 June 2010

Well, Halo (ODST aside) has seen increasing sales while GT dipped a bit.  However GT5:P sales where very good - going by VG sales plus allowing for downloads on top just a short taster has sold millions.

So... it's going to be close, but I think LTD GT5 will slightly outsell Reach given it has so much content plus Nascar plus it's the first true release of the franchise on PS3.



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Hus on 24 June 2010

Also GT is a true WW seller, Halo is NA and UK.  USA alone wont make up that differance. 

Also Pro GT markets are better of economically then Pro HAlo.

 



yo_john117 on 24 June 2010
bevochan said:

Lots of people are talking about attach rates (stupid math) which doesn't make any sense.  When Halo 3 came out, there wasn't a competing FPS.  Halo Reach is going up against Call of Duty Black Ops this fall, and the last COD sold 10 million on Xbox and 8 million on PS3.  And don't give that crap that this game isn't made by Infinity Ward.  Majority of people in this country have no idea who Infinity Ward or Treyarch are.  Everytime I watch ESPN, Black Ops commercials are plastered during NBA playoffs or Sportscenter.  Typical Americans (the family of 4 with household income 30~K who shop at Walmart) are not going to buy both Black Ops and Halo Reach.  Go ask a non-fanboy:  more people are aware of Black Ops coming out this fall because of the main stream advertising as opposed to Halo Reach.

Thats because MS hasn't even begun their advertising hype train.



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yo_john117 on 24 June 2010
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Funtime said:

Simple math would dictate that Halo Reach will outsell GT 5 by a fairly large margin barring GT5 getting bundled at some point.

Halo 2 sold 8 million on an install base of 25 million. GT4 sold 14 or so million on an install base of 130 million (roughly).

Halo 3 sold almost 11 million and it launched to an install base of around 18-20 million.

With the current hardware numbers for Sony and MS I don't see how GT has any shot at beating Halo this gen....unless of course it gets bundled.


no not simple math. more like speculation on numbers of a console that dominated.

lets stick to simple facts. GT4 sold 14m. Halo sold 11m (round it off)

most sequals sell beter then there predecessors. so to blow the argument out of the water

GT5 20m GT5 is th onlyone that will move consoles

Halo Reach 15m

it can't be argued cause my mind is made up.

You think GT5 is gonna sell 20 million and Reach is gonna sell 15M o_0


yea sure why not.

Because its.....crazy!



MARCUSDJACKSON on 24 June 2010
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Funtime said:

Simple math would dictate that Halo Reach will outsell GT 5 by a fairly large margin barring GT5 getting bundled at some point.

Halo 2 sold 8 million on an install base of 25 million. GT4 sold 14 or so million on an install base of 130 million (roughly).

Halo 3 sold almost 11 million and it launched to an install base of around 18-20 million.

With the current hardware numbers for Sony and MS I don't see how GT has any shot at beating Halo this gen....unless of course it gets bundled.


no not simple math. more like speculation on numbers of a console that dominated.

lets stick to simple facts. GT4 sold 14m. Halo sold 11m (round it off)

most sequals sell beter then there predecessors. so to blow the argument out of the water

GT5 20m GT5 is th onlyone that will move consoles

Halo Reach 15m

it can't be argued cause my mind is made up.

You think GT5 is gonna sell 20 million and Reach is gonna sell 15M o_0


yea sure why not.

Because its.....crazy!


i don't think so! COD2 selling 20m was crazy to me.



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yo_john117 on 24 June 2010
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Funtime said:

Simple math would dictate that Halo Reach will outsell GT 5 by a fairly large margin barring GT5 getting bundled at some point.

Halo 2 sold 8 million on an install base of 25 million. GT4 sold 14 or so million on an install base of 130 million (roughly).

Halo 3 sold almost 11 million and it launched to an install base of around 18-20 million.

With the current hardware numbers for Sony and MS I don't see how GT has any shot at beating Halo this gen....unless of course it gets bundled.


no not simple math. more like speculation on numbers of a console that dominated.

lets stick to simple facts. GT4 sold 14m. Halo sold 11m (round it off)

most sequals sell beter then there predecessors. so to blow the argument out of the water

GT5 20m GT5 is th onlyone that will move consoles

Halo Reach 15m

it can't be argued cause my mind is made up.

You think GT5 is gonna sell 20 million and Reach is gonna sell 15M o_0


yea sure why not.

Because its.....crazy!


i don't think so! COD2 selling 20m was crazy to me.

Yeah but it was on multiple platforms, was hyped beyond belief, and it was a FPS with great online (which is probably the most popular genre out there)



MARCUSDJACKSON on 24 June 2010
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Funtime said:

Simple math would dictate that Halo Reach will outsell GT 5 by a fairly large margin barring GT5 getting bundled at some point.

Halo 2 sold 8 million on an install base of 25 million. GT4 sold 14 or so million on an install base of 130 million (roughly).

Halo 3 sold almost 11 million and it launched to an install base of around 18-20 million.

With the current hardware numbers for Sony and MS I don't see how GT has any shot at beating Halo this gen....unless of course it gets bundled.


no not simple math. more like speculation on numbers of a console that dominated.

lets stick to simple facts. GT4 sold 14m. Halo sold 11m (round it off)

most sequals sell beter then there predecessors. so to blow the argument out of the water

GT5 20m GT5 is th onlyone that will move consoles

Halo Reach 15m

it can't be argued cause my mind is made up.

You think GT5 is gonna sell 20 million and Reach is gonna sell 15M o_0


yea sure why not.

Because its.....crazy!


i don't think so! COD2 selling 20m was crazy to me.

Yeah but it was on multiple platforms, was hyped beyond belief, and it was a FPS with great online (which is probably the most popular genre out there)


toshay! so whats stopping GT5 from selling 20m?

 



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archbrix on 24 June 2010

Yes, I think that GT5 will likely outsell Halo Reach world-wide lifetime, but I think Halo will have a much bigger debut.