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WOW i just realised that TOP GEAR ll be in GT5 and it ll be advertised as partner, WOW 350 millions potential buyers who re not gamers at all. Reason more reach wont win WW easily ,lol.

 

ANd why is everyone confident reach ll do 12-15 millions?

1.it has smaller preorder numbers combared to halo 3(btw. halo 3 was advertised as hell with no competition and still strugled to surpass 10 millions in 3 years)

2.it ll have competition in black ops,moh, crysis

 

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Hyruken said:

So not to ruin the thread by quoting a massive long post i thought i would put a new one to respond to this time thing.

Right there is one critical flaw thing about this whole GT3 selling loads with a far smaller install base etc..Some seemed to have ignored it while on their little crusades.

When GT3 came out the PS2 wasen't even released outside Japan.....GT3 was a launch title for most territories. Your comparing sales for one region, obviously the attach ratio will look better by doing that!

If you want a better indicator of this time thing then look at the first year on sales after it's release. In that Year PS2's total install base was 28m units....Only 7m short of what PS3 has sold in 4 years on sale.

So the point that some are making is GT5 can sell like GT3 if the pattern on the PS2 repeats itself. In that the console is sold at the same rate as the PS2 was.

Again not going to happen.

Ok, i've been out of this thread because I don't discuss sales, but the bold part is ridiculous. 

I distinctly remember the PS2 launching in november 2000 here in Europe, and GT3 only releasing almost a year later in July 2001. 

GT3 was far from being a launch title. 



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lestatdark said:
Hyruken said:

So not to ruin the thread by quoting a massive long post i thought i would put a new one to respond to this time thing.

Right there is one critical flaw thing about this whole GT3 selling loads with a far smaller install base etc..Some seemed to have ignored it while on their little crusades.

When GT3 came out the PS2 wasen't even released outside Japan.....GT3 was a launch title for most territories. Your comparing sales for one region, obviously the attach ratio will look better by doing that!

If you want a better indicator of this time thing then look at the first year on sales after it's release. In that Year PS2's total install base was 28m units....Only 7m short of what PS3 has sold in 4 years on sale.

So the point that some are making is GT5 can sell like GT3 if the pattern on the PS2 repeats itself. In that the console is sold at the same rate as the PS2 was.

Again not going to happen.

Ok, i've been out of this thread because I don't discuss sales, but the bold part is ridiculous. 

I distinctly remember the PS2 launching in november 2000 here in Europe, and GT3 only releasing almost a year later in July 2001. 

GT3 was far from being a launch title. 

Indeed, Gran Turismo 3 was released on:

- April 28, 2001 in Japan, 

- July 10, 2001 in North America,

- July 20, 2001 in Europe.

 

Now if memory serves well, the PS2 was released in:

- March 2000 in Japan,

- October 2000 in North America,  

- November 2000 in Europe.

 

Of course, facts like those would be dismissed or altered to make the trolling efficient. 



Hynad said:
lestatdark said:
Hyruken said:

So not to ruin the thread by quoting a massive long post i thought i would put a new one to respond to this time thing.

Right there is one critical flaw thing about this whole GT3 selling loads with a far smaller install base etc..Some seemed to have ignored it while on their little crusades.

When GT3 came out the PS2 wasen't even released outside Japan.....GT3 was a launch title for most territories. Your comparing sales for one region, obviously the attach ratio will look better by doing that!

If you want a better indicator of this time thing then look at the first year on sales after it's release. In that Year PS2's total install base was 28m units....Only 7m short of what PS3 has sold in 4 years on sale.

So the point that some are making is GT5 can sell like GT3 if the pattern on the PS2 repeats itself. In that the console is sold at the same rate as the PS2 was.

Again not going to happen.

Ok, i've been out of this thread because I don't discuss sales, but the bold part is ridiculous. 

I distinctly remember the PS2 launching in november 2000 here in Europe, and GT3 only releasing almost a year later in July 2001. 

GT3 was far from being a launch title. 

Indeed, Gran Turismo 3 was released on:

- April 28, 2001 in Japan, 

- July 10, 2001 in North America,

- July 20, 2001 in Europe.

 

Now if memory serves well, the PS2 was released in:

- March 2000 in Japan,

- October 2000 in North America,  

- November 2000 in Europe.

 

Of course, facts like those would be dismissed or altered to make the trolling efficient. 

Unfortunately you're right. And there has been quite an unhealthy amount of GT trolling as of late. I'm now eager to see his reply XD



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lestatdark said:
Hyruken said:

So not to ruin the thread by quoting a massive long post i thought i would put a new one to respond to this time thing.

Right there is one critical flaw thing about this whole GT3 selling loads with a far smaller install base etc..Some seemed to have ignored it while on their little crusades.

When GT3 came out the PS2 wasen't even released outside Japan.....GT3 was a launch title for most territories. Your comparing sales for one region, obviously the attach ratio will look better by doing that!

If you want a better indicator of this time thing then look at the first year on sales after it's release. In that Year PS2's total install base was 28m units....Only 7m short of what PS3 has sold in 4 years on sale.

So the point that some are making is GT5 can sell like GT3 if the pattern on the PS2 repeats itself. In that the console is sold at the same rate as the PS2 was.

Again not going to happen.

Ok, i've been out of this thread because I don't discuss sales, but the bold part is ridiculous. 

I distinctly remember the PS2 launching in november 2000 here in Europe, and GT3 only releasing almost a year later in July 2001. 

GT3 was far from being a launch title. 

Ok seems i need to give a little explanation of what i meant.

In terms of dates you are of course 100% right. PS2 was launched in october 2000.

However there were serious problems with the launch, there were PS2's made that then had to be recalled, stock levels were mega low, you could not get one for a long long time unless you wanted to pay a stupid amount of money.

So as i said to get a better idea of time you can't use when GT3 came out because there were massive problems with stock.

To give you an example of that if we take the US launch of PS3 on 26th october 2000 and go to the date july 10th 2001 when GT3 was released only 3m PS2's had be sold in states. That is over a course of 8 months. Over the following 8 months from 10th july 2001 to march 10th 2002 PS2 in america sold nearly 8m units. Nearly trippling it's sales. That was down to stock finally coming out.

So while GT3 was not a direct launch title it was actually just out when the stock problem started to be sorted.

And that was the point i was trying to make.

I got my hands on my PS2 after GT3 was released, simply because there were no PS2's to buy.



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My guess is...

 

Standalone sales only: Reach >> GT5

Bundled sales included: GT5 > Reach



jarrod said:

My guess is...

 

Standalone sales only: Reach >> GT5

Bundled sales included: GT5 > Reach


ur guess has alot of problems

 

as GT5 will be bundled day one,its sales will obviously  have alot of  bundled sales

alot of people are gonna purchase a PS3 for GT5 so it it will again have alot of bundled sales



Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:

My guess is...

 

Standalone sales only: Reach >> GT5

Bundled sales included: GT5 > Reach


ur guess has alot of problems

 

as GT5 will be bundled day one,its sales will obviously  have alot of  bundled sales

alot of people are gonna purchase a PS3 for GT5 so it it will again have alot of bundled sales


Er... but what you just said actually implies my guess doesn't have a lot of problems?  Thanks for the backup. ;)



jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:

My guess is...

 

Standalone sales only: Reach >> GT5

Bundled sales included: GT5 > Reach


ur guess has alot of problems

 

as GT5 will be bundled day one,its sales will obviously  have alot of  bundled sales

alot of people are gonna purchase a PS3 for GT5 so it it will again have alot of bundled sales


Er... but what you just said actually implies my guess doesn't have a lot of problems?  Thanks for the backup. ;)

i didn't have problems with ur guess but why make a guess which is already known

 

the bundled games even if bundled contribute to the title sales

its not like Wii sports where you don't pay for the game.GT5 bundles will be premium



Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:

My guess is...

 

Standalone sales only: Reach >> GT5

Bundled sales included: GT5 > Reach


ur guess has alot of problems

 

as GT5 will be bundled day one,its sales will obviously  have alot of  bundled sales

alot of people are gonna purchase a PS3 for GT5 so it it will again have alot of bundled sales


Er... but what you just said actually implies my guess doesn't have a lot of problems?  Thanks for the backup. ;)

i didn't have problems with ur guess but why make a guess which is already known

 

the bundled games even if bundled contribute to the title sales

its not like Wii sports where you don't pay for the game.GT5 bundles will be premium

If GT5 Prologue is anything to go by, they'll be bundling GT5 for free.