Its strange to read some of these responses, I'm sure most of you won't believe it but back in the n64/ GC era I would probably have fit the description of nintendo fanboy pretty well. It wasn't until this generation I started to enjoy sony over nintendo. Of course, before any of this it was me and my genesis against the world. But all of this is besides the point. My point in this thread was to question why nintendo can get a free pass on their mistakes. There is unjustified criticism of all game developers, and nintendo has gotten its fair share- some would say more than its fair share. I wasn't trying to sweep that under the rug or in a bubble oblivious to it, I brought it up in my opening post. The difference is, when sony or MS or any one else is criticized - and the criticism is justified- most people agree they made a mistake. For example, sony announces ps3 for 599 usd. Obviously too expensive. Besides a few people who might say that it has a blu-ray player or something along those lines to justify it, most people will come to consensus that sony screwed up, sony fans included. But when a justifiied criticism of nintendo comes up, their poor third party relations for instance, its not their fault. Its the third parties, its money hatting from sony and MS. People refuse to accept that nintendo brought a lot of those problems on itself with its restrictions and harsh regulating of third parties in the N64 and GC era. Thats where I take issue. Thats why I made this thread.

We recognize that Nintendo has made mistakes. And I would like you to point out where Nintendo has gotten a free pass, so that I can bring up counterpoints that they have criticized.

For the bolded. Must I make a list of games Nintendo has made with 3rd parties this generation? Also the harsh regulation was during the NES, SNES periods, plus a little at the begging of the N64, during the GameCube era they tried to make amends with 3rd parties. You should brush up on your history, I can recommend some good books.

And you still haven't addressed the responses you received, like for example the fact that Nintendo has been criticized.

Ill clarify- when I say criticism proof I don't mean that no one has ever criticized nintendo. I'm saying that when they do they are instantly the bad guy, whether or not what they say is true. Nintendo has an "untouchable" status, even a minor rebuke of their policy and the person making the claim must clearly be at least misguided, if not out right evil.

All sequels regardless of whether it is a Mario game, Fallout game, Zelda game, Fable game, Doom game, Metroid game and on contain essentially the same gameplay as their predecessors with a few tweaks and better graphics. Rarely do sequels switch it up entirely.

This perceived, faux anger over Nintendo comes from the fact that the widely held gaming God, Shigeru Miyamoto has been quoted as wanting to create Super Mario 128. People don't want to hear stuff from this whom the gaming netroots and industry insiders regularly hail as creating the current console gaming market.What makes it an affront is when a guy who wants to create Super Mario 128 is hailed as a creative genius when he could not even put Peach or a female character in the New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

People so enamored with Miyamoto forget that there was Atari and Caleco Vision before Nintendo jumped into the home console market.

Henceforth, Miyamoto or Nintendo for that matter was not irreplaceable then and not irreplaceable now. If it would not have been Miyamoto and Nintendo, then Atari or some other gaming company would have been in Nintendo's shoes right now and if Nintendo fails, then Microsoft, Sony and Apple will capitalize on the vaccum left from their demise.

Its strange to read some of these responses, I'm sure most of you won't believe it but back in the n64/ GC era I would probably have fit the description of nintendo fanboy pretty well. It wasn't until this generation I started to enjoy sony over nintendo. Of course, before any of this it was me and my genesis against the world. But all of this is besides the point. My point in this thread was to question why nintendo can get a free pass on their mistakes. There is unjustified criticism of all game developers, and nintendo has gotten its fair share- some would say more than its fair share. I wasn't trying to sweep that under the rug or in a bubble oblivious to it, I brought it up in my opening post. The difference is, when sony or MS or any one else is criticized - and the criticism is justified- most people agree they made a mistake. For example, sony announces ps3 for 599 usd. Obviously too expensive. Besides a few people who might say that it has a blu-ray player or something along those lines to justify it, most people will come to consensus that sony screwed up, sony fans included. But when a justifiied criticism of nintendo comes up, their poor third party relations for instance, its not their fault. Its the third parties, its money hatting from sony and MS. People refuse to accept that nintendo brought a lot of those problems on itself with its restrictions and harsh regulating of third parties in the N64 and GC era. Thats where I take issue. Thats why I made this thread. 

Did you read my last post? 

Abit off-topic but I notice the Nintendo fanboys on this site tend to have cutesy/kiddy display pics. It's somewhat sickening to imaginea 20-something fat boy idolising kiddy stuff like that.