ZenfoldorVGI said:
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The title may be ignorant, but the last line is so goddamn brilliant, it hurts. 
ZenfoldorVGI said:
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The title may be ignorant, but the last line is so goddamn brilliant, it hurts. 
Sony done and commited suicide with pricing the PS3 out of the price range of the majority of consumers when it first launched and until last year.
I've been saying the exact same thing as that article. Between the 3DS obliterating the PSP (and it will) and the beginning of an epic war between Sony's competitors for the hearts and minds of the mass market (with the first major skirmish this X'mas between Wii and Kinect) it will mark the further decline of the Playstation brand.
After Phil Harrison left Sony and was honest about his experiences there he basically stated a lot of the decisions coming out of Sony Japan were from people that just didn't get what the Wii and DS represented. To me that is still very much on display with PSP Go and PS3 Move which show that Sony has still learned nothing from the Wii and DS.
The only reasons the PS3 is still somewhat successful is because the competition hasn't seriously moved into some of the remaining Playstation strongholds, the fact that Sony (and not Microsoft) is willing to lose a lot money. But that will only help them for awhile as the losses alone will eventually force major cuts in the division.
I'm sure people will claim it's just bias speaking but everything I've said will come to pass, mark my words.
I'll quote a comment I have seen on Gizmodo, that has quite a point imo.
"Nintendo's biggest triumph was bringing innovation back to gaming hardware. They proved it was no longer the big penis contest it was last generation, capturing a huge segment of the non-gamer gamers. Sony did themselves in by creating a super powerful game console that (at the time) didn't offer anything better than what the cheaper 360 could do. They're biggest problem (imo) is that they keep building products that need to be explained to the consumer. If your customers need to be educated why bluray is better, or why cell is more powerful, or why six-axis makes gaming more interesting, then you will fail."
I don't know, while the article is emotionally effective for making things sound like Sony's dire beginning of the gen all over again, there are some pretty absurd assumptions and contradictions that probably wouldn't stand up in the average podcast discussion.
"Sony, the gigantonormous hardware company, just got punked by Nintendo, the short-sighted game company."
...The same short-sighted game company that brought motion control hardware to market which both of it's competitors are only now answering 4 years later?
"the PSP blew out the DS in terms of specs, not software. Raw hardware power."
...It also lacked a screen, a stylus, a mic, and game media that doesn't look suspiciously like a minidisk.
I mean, really? Sony is supposed to be leading Nintendo in handheld technology after the PSP?
"But wait! PlayStation 3 does 3D! The Xbox 360 does it, but Microsoft has kept it basically a secret"
But wait, the Eye Toy does gaming without a controller, but Sony has kept it basically a secret! 
And then there's the central assumption that Sony should be judged mainly on their hardware, not on their software. What's that mantra again? It's all about the games? Get any group of gamers together and ask them what makes a great console, and they're not going to tell you it's the hardware specs.
And, even if we just follow the conceit of the article, that we should always expect Sony to win with hardware and Microsoft to win with software, which of those two won for software at E3? Was Kinect's launch lineup stronger than Move's? Even with all the articles about the bugginess of it at this point? And what about the other games?
Suddenly trying to make the hardware conparison central to a company's success seems rather out of touch with what gaming is, and has always been. Don't you guys think so?
What's with this Sony bashing thread. Sony did'nt lose E3,they tied with microsoft for second. Sony spent to much time talking about the move and Microsoft spent to much time showing kinnect games. Microsoft and Sony are going to fight it out this christmas, while nintendo laughs all the way to the back. I agree with the point of Sony pushing 3D to early. I think that's a big mistake on Sony's part. There's no way I'm going to shell out 2 grand on a T.V. just for 3D. lol
| scottie said: Basically, what I do is this. If the person writing an article compares the Wii without Wii Motion to either Kinect or Move, I assume that the author is too stupid to dress himself, much less write a choesive argument.
Moving the hell along |
Also they claimed that Nintendo is a "short-sighted game maker"
granted these guys are on the tech side of things more, so have less reason to really click with Nintendo's style, but still. Underestimating Nintendo was what got everyone else in this mess.

Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
| Legend11 said: I've been saying the exact same thing as that article. Between the 3DS obliterating the PSP (and it will) and the beginning of an epic war between Sony's competitors for the hearts and minds of the mass market (with the first major skirmish this X'mas between Wii and Kinect) it will mark the further decline of the Playstation brand. After Phil Harrison left Sony and was honest about his experiences there he basically stated a lot of the decisions coming out of Sony Japan were from people that just didn't get what the Wii and DS represented. To me that is still very much on display with PSP Go and PS3 Move which show that Sony has still learned nothing from the Wii and DS. The only reasons the PS3 is still somewhat successful is because the competition hasn't seriously moved into some of the remaining Playstation strongholds, the fact that Sony (and not Microsoft) is willing to lose a lot money. But that will only help them for awhile as the losses alone will eventually force major cuts in the division. I'm sure people will claim it's just bias speaking but everything I've said will come to pass, mark my words. |
Well said. 
Anyway the 3DS is a problem for Sony more so than anyone else because of Japans shift buying handhelds instead of TV consoles and much of their strength is still central to that region. The 3DS will accellerate that trend and likely weaken both the PS3 and PSP in that region, the latter severely.
Oh and Microsoft seems to be proving that network services are at least as important if not more important than any one, two or three HD console exclusive games.
Tease.