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Take a good look at the upcoming 3DS and its amazing lineup of tons of games from a huge variety of 3rd parties as well as Nintendo itself. What is the common theme you see from most of these publishers and primarily Nintendo itself?

REMAKES.

This is not something Nintendo has ever done at the lauch of a system. As a 1st party they are about 50% new/remake, when normally they are 100% new and only bring remakes, if at all far later into its life as classics or new play control, etc. So, what really begs the question is, why? Why put out so little original content at launch?

I believe there are two reasons for this. But, first lets setup the resulting effect from so many remakes.By having your software contain far less development costs while still selling them at full retail value (or close to it) you garner far higher returns, i.e. profits, from that software. This allows you to pool your development costs to either spend more on hardware or gaining less profit from each console sold as well as diversify your game portoflio because you can have smaller teams working on far more projects.

Here is my opinion on what Nintendo is cooking.

1. They will sell the 3DS for a small loss or at cost in the beginning to ensure that it is immediately accepted by mainstream and sees DSLite levels of immediate demand. This builds a massively quick marketshare and cements Nintendo's leadership once again. Keeping their promise to focus on keeping down enchroachment from Apple, Android, as well as the future Sony handheld (whenever that's announced).

From this I expect that even though the technology in the 3DS is comparable to really expensive portable products ($300+), its retail price will be less than $200 ($199 or $179 is my guess), with obviously the phase out of DSlite and big reduction for DSi.

2. Nintendo made an agreement with 3rd parties to offer far less competition so they could garner strong 3rd party support from day one. This allows Nintendo to space out its big guns better as well as it brings bigger core gaming names to the device as the fear of competing against Nintendo is very low.

Why else would they launch a new system with NO big common Nintendo IP? No Mario/Luigi/Zelda, etc. Those are all remakes that have small dev costs and will undoubtly have less competition than if it were a new big NSMB3DS game, etc.

Here 3rd parties can not push out AAA names of their own and expect to sell big as the system will immediately be recognized by the core crowd as well as the new expanded audience as Nintendo has satisfied all of their complaints.

3DS has no initial Nintendo new AAA (by name) game support like other new hardware.
3DS has the power and ability to allow them to push out content 3rd parties like to create.
3DS will have an immediate mainstream price point allowing instant success and quick jump in userbase size.
3DS has a unique 3D quality that once demonstrated, like the Wii was, by playing it; there is no stopping the printing money gifs.

One more thing, I think the transition from DSLite/DSi to 3DS is a good example of what to expect from Wii to its successor. It will be far more powerful than you'd expect with a big new set of features matching best qualities of competitors (online anyone) as well as creating new ones that no one else will think of.



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Hmm, DS main launch game was a Remake... what others aside from Ocarina and Starfox are we talking here?



andremop said:

Hmm, DS main launch game was a Remake... what others aside from Ocarina and Starfox are we talking here?


Its about 50/50 and none of the NEW are IPs that I'd consider equivalent to normal luanch games like Mario/Zelda.

Known Nintendo NEW

Kid Icarus™: Uprising

Nintendogs™ Cats

PilotWings Resort™

Steel Diver™

Known Nintendo REMAKES

Animal Crossing™

Paper Mario™

Star Fox 64™ 3D

Mario Kart™

 

list source from http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111422&page=1



The Nintendo remakes are undoubtedly being handled by second-party studios for the sake of fleshingo ut the library. Nintendo themselves will not be directly involved in any remakes.



superchunk said:
andremop said:

Hmm, DS main launch game was a Remake... what others aside from Ocarina and Starfox are we talking here?


Its about 50/50 and none of the NEW are IPs that I'd consider equivalent to normal luanch games like Mario/Zelda.

Known Nintendo NEW

Kid Icarus™: Uprising

Nintendogs™ Cats

PilotWings Resort™

Steel Diver™

Known Nintendo REMAKES

Animal Crossing™

Paper Mario™

Star Fox 64™ 3D

Mario Kart™

 

list source from http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111422&page=1

 

How do you know Paper Mario, Animal Crossing and Mario Kart are remakes??



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superchunk said:
andremop said:

Hmm, DS main launch game was a Remake... what others aside from Ocarina and Starfox are we talking here?


Its about 50/50 and none of the NEW are IPs that I'd consider equivalent to normal luanch games like Mario/Zelda.

Known Nintendo NEW

Kid Icarus™: Uprising

Nintendogs™ Cats

PilotWings Resort™

Steel Diver™

Known Nintendo REMAKES

Animal Crossing™

Paper Mario™

Star Fox 64™ 3D

Mario Kart™

 

list source from http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111422&page=1

What, those are remakes??



andremop said:
superchunk said:
andremop said:

Hmm, DS main launch game was a Remake... what others aside from Ocarina and Starfox are we talking here?


Its about 50/50 and none of the NEW are IPs that I'd consider equivalent to normal luanch games like Mario/Zelda.

Known Nintendo NEW

Kid Icarus™: Uprising

Nintendogs™ Cats

PilotWings Resort™

Steel Diver™

Known Nintendo REMAKES

Animal Crossing™

Paper Mario™

Star Fox 64™ 3D

Mario Kart™

 

list source from http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111422&page=1

What, those are remakes??

They can't be. Mario Kart has drivers on Wuhu Island, Paper Mario has a Chain Chomp sidekick (about time) and Animal Crossing... well... they're all kinda the same anyway, soooo......



SleepWaking said:
superchunk said:
andremop said:

Hmm, DS main launch game was a Remake... what others aside from Ocarina and Starfox are we talking here?


Its about 50/50 and none of the NEW are IPs that I'd consider equivalent to normal luanch games like Mario/Zelda.

Known Nintendo NEW

Kid Icarus™: Uprising

Nintendogs™ Cats

PilotWings Resort™

Steel Diver™

Known Nintendo REMAKES

Animal Crossing™

Paper Mario™

Star Fox 64™ 3D

Mario Kart™

 

list source from http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=111422&page=1

 

How do you know Paper Mario, Animal Crossing and Mario Kart are remakes??

And they are not , of course only Star fox 64 is... the other is just u take a look at screens shots of those games that u can see that they are not



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I can think of one reason to the "remakes"... maybe there will be 2 bundles at launch.. Starfox/Zelda/Tetris3D... Nintendogs/Animalcross/Tetris3D... Pre-installed offcourse.



MadeInDK said:

I can think of one reason to the "remakes"... maybe there will be 2 bundles at launch.. Starfox/zelda/Tetris3d... Nintendogs/animalcross/Tetris3d... pre-installed.


No way Nintendo will give Nintendogs for free at lauch... this thing is going to sell billions on its own.