if you think about it what would the new system's that Microsoft and Sony release what would the function's of the new replacement's have over the PS3 and the xbox360?

more powerful hardware, and better upperlimit graphic's limit's

other than that every function that the new machine's will have so would the PS3 and the xbox360, they would not be upto the speed of the replacement system's will have.  Durring the first year or two there is not going to be a real big graphical leap in the game's over the system's we have now because the PS3 and the xbox360 will still be selling, and developer's still want that money. esp. 3rd party.

they have enough robust hardware that developer's can still make good money in software sales to keep developer's putting game's on the older system to be released also.

due mainly to XBOX LIVE

due mainly to PSN

not being as static as older game console's will keep the ps3 and the xbox360 viable platform because of them both being less static.

In all honesty Sony doesn't have to try too horribly hard to do better than this.

OT: So far i'm quite disappointed , and if kinnect does cost this much then I will just give up on MS ever making anything good ever again gaming wise.

If MS is banking on Kinect to be the future of the Xbox platform, then the assumption has to be that a significant percentage of future releases will be Kinect compatible if not required.

The only problem is (if these $189, $120 prices are correct; we'll find out pretty soon), MS just created a split market for a sub-platform that is no longer a casual purchase (like another controller), but a full blown add-on that is essentially a platform on top of a platform ie. Sega CD or Sega 32X. 

At those prices, most Xbox owners will not be upgrading, so I really hope this was a misinterpretation/false information.

If not, those initial games had better be magical.

Why two versions?  Will some games only work on one?  This sounds odd to me.   With Kinect MS are looking at potentially having to split their user base into two - those with Kinect and those without.  With two versions that could split smaller, which isn't good.

Even with the Wii's success overall it felt to me like MotionPlus struggled as it broke from the origianl configuration and split the install base, with few games really seeming to use it vs the larger install base without it.

Now MS and Sony seem to be gearing up to have multiple motion controller configurations in defiance of the wisdom of keeping things consistent from the start.

I'm confused.

WTF?!

$100 is already pushing it.

I predict a quick price drop if it really starts at $189.

If it cost that much,then no I'm not  buying. I won't buy for more than $100.

Honestly, I have always expected it to cost $150 to $200 bundled with a game; and that is one of the main reasons I never thought it would be that successful. This doesn’t mean (necessarily) that it will sell poorly, after all Rock Band is (basically) $200 and sold very well for a game, but at a price like this it could never have the sales to make it competitive as an independent platform.

The only scenario in which two SKUs makes sense is bundles with different software. I only hope they will not release a high performance model with additional processing power to alleviate the lag.

Indeed its starting to seem that way. Here's hoping we're all wrong tho.