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allenfake said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
allenfake said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
allenfake said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
allenfake said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
allenfake said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Xxain said:

SONY is definitely gonna lose that battle..lol..NINTENDO is literally one step ahead as always.


Not really as they haven't announced Wii HD and if they don't this year and most probably will not it could be FATAL as for next gen they just can't bring an HD upgrade

 

and by that time NATAL,MOVE would have eaten Wii's share


Lol crazzyman is that you? Do you honestly think that move and natal will actually hurt the Wiis marketshare?


not hurt but with wii sales dropping,people think 360 and ps3 as upgrades and will go for it

 

and if wii hd doesn't arrive then they will eat wii's share and nintendo won't have that good name to carry on to nect gen

 

and with all the companies arriving in next 2 years wit new consoles,nintendo won't have the advantage that a gen winner has with its brand name built

 

and no i'm not crazzyman


ok *wink* not crazzyman *wink*, but I honestly don't think your average consumer would go and buy a HD platform just for the sake of HD, especially if they already own a Wii.


the averAGE CASUAL consumer doesn't really buy an HD because its HD but because they think its better

m ost don't look at the details if everyone has it and its the thing to have,they get it

What do you mean by 'better'? As in brand recognition/equity or just that something's priced higher automatically making it 'better'? I'm sure the majority know what HD is but do they know that Wii can't output full HD? Don't know, don't think so.

I guess it'll come down to the price/benefits ratio, if natal or move are priced way too high most they probably won't do that great in the mass market.

better as in quality of features and something priced higher but not that higher after pricecut last year

 

majority know what hd but not technicle,they just know its higher resolution

 

they don't critically point of graphical or other mistakes

 

just that its the cool thing so i am doing it

 

you really think all the causual would be casuals if they cared about these things?

If the casuals don't care for HD then how will "NATAL,MOVE eat Wii's share" ???? Other than HD I don't really see many discerible benefits lack of wii sports.

they don't care in technical terms but they know its better  and have know from someone

like if you see Modern Warfare 2 sales,not all nkew or followed the franchises but everybody knew it was gonna be better and 'COOL'


Dude, thats not the point, if the mass market was aware that a product had improvements over another, but didn't need it, there'd be no demand for that certain product in that market and without demand how would that product do well in any market and certainly wouldn't compete against an established product for market share.


do you really think that the year on year maddedn games see much difference but people still buy them

 

even they don't technically know its advantages they just basically look at the beutiful picture and think it as an upgrade and also other people having it influences too



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Wait, I have an idea! What if Wii became popular because of revolutionary games like Wii Sports and not the price? I remember people in general talking about Wii Sports, but I can't say I remember people in general talking much about the price.



So what you're saying is that people don't care about improvements in technology and that they are inclined to buy the products that they are familiar with? You could apply that to the HD platforms, people don't care about the hardware power and unless I'm mistaken Wii is the market leader and people are more likely to buy a Wii (or upgrade of the Wii) due to previous experience.

But from what I understand from your post, do you think that if they release a Wii that glows in the dark with pretty decals on the side the mass market will flock to it simply because they think that it's better without knowing the technical specs?



forest-spirit said:

Wait, I have an idea! What if Wii became popular because of revolutionary games like Wii Sports and not the price? I remember people in general talking about Wii Sports, but I can't say I remember people in general talking much about the price.


WHY WOULD THEY TAK ABOUT THE PRICE WHEN IS WAS ALREADY PRETTY CHEAP?



Solid_Snake4RD said:
forest-spirit said:

Wait, I have an idea! What if Wii became popular because of revolutionary games like Wii Sports and not the price? I remember people in general talking about Wii Sports, but I can't say I remember people in general talking much about the price.


WHY WOULD THEY TAK ABOUT THE PRICE WHEN IS WAS ALREADY PRETTY CHEAP?


My point is that it was Wii Sports (plus other games) that sold the Wii more than anything. People didn't buy it just because it was cheap.

 

Edit:

"Plus" doesn't work? Whattheheck?



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allenfake said:

So what you're saying is that people don't care about improvements in technology and that they are inclined to buy the products that they are familiar with? You could apply that to the HD platforms, people don't care about the hardware power and unless I'm mistaken Wii is the market leader and people are more likely to buy a Wii (or upgrade of the Wii) due to previous experience.

But from what I understand from your post, do you think that if they release a Wii that glows in the dark with pretty decals on the side the mass market will flock to it simply because they think that it's better without knowing the technical specs?

PEOPLE DO

 

JUST THAT THE CASUALS do critically care about things as much as a casual.

For xample they don't care and most don't know if UNCHARTED 2 is the best looking game or some other.

 

yes they would flock to it

 

are you insane?do you really think every girl or mom or kid out there really knows or cares much about gaming,they just buying what they think would be good for them?

 

do you think most people buying HDTV's know what the fuckingn difference is there between HDMI 1.2,HDMI 1.3,HDMI 1.4.

NO THEY DUCKING DON'T

DO yo think they know the fucking difference between Polarised and active shutter 3D,NO THEY DON'T?

 

you really think all those who bought Modern WARFARE 2 followed it all along,saw what improvements it had ?]

 

no they didn't as kids wanted to have the 'COOL' thing,play what their friends were playing and everybody else,discuss and have what everybody else had.

 

 

talk a little bit mature

just because most of us on this site care a bout all the little techicle details not everybody else does

you are like one of those person saying just because i know it,you expext everybody else to know it too



forest-spirit said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
forest-spirit said:

Wait, I have an idea! What if Wii became popular because of revolutionary games like Wii Sports and not the price? I remember people in general talking about Wii Sports, but I can't say I remember people in general talking much about the price.


WHY WOULD THEY TAK ABOUT THE PRICE WHEN IS WAS ALREADY PRETTY CHEAP?


My point is that it was Wii Sports (plus other games) that sold the Wii more than anything. People didn't buy it just because it was cheap.

 

Edit:

"Plus" doesn't work? Whattheheck?


what did the edit part mean?

 

i know Wii sports and Wii fit helpd Wii alot

 

but just think with the moment SONY was coming into this gen and brand being the biggest of biggest,at a low price of $299 it would have just overshadowed the Wii

 

you see GC and DC were great consoles too but PS2 had huge backing from PS1 and whole spotlight was on it so other systems just didn't get any support and people didn't buy them



Solid_Snake4RD said:


WHY WOULD THEY TAK ABOUT THE PRICE WHEN IS WAS ALREADY PRETTY CHEAP?


why would you talk in all caps when the button is easy to reach to turn it off?



Tease.

Squilliam said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:


WHY WOULD THEY TAK ABOUT THE PRICE WHEN IS WAS ALREADY PRETTY CHEAP?


why would you talk in all caps when the button is easy to reach to turn it off?


sensible Squilliam



Solid_Snake4RD said:
allenfake said:

So what you're saying is that people don't care about improvements in technology and that they are inclined to buy the products that they are familiar with? You could apply that to the HD platforms, people don't care about the hardware power and unless I'm mistaken Wii is the market leader and people are more likely to buy a Wii (or upgrade of the Wii) due to previous experience.

But from what I understand from your post, do you think that if they release a Wii that glows in the dark with pretty decals on the side the mass market will flock to it simply because they think that it's better without knowing the technical specs?

PEOPLE DO

 

JUST THAT THE CASUALS do critically care about things as much as a casual.

For xample they don't care and most don't know if UNCHARTED 2 is the best looking game or some other.

 

yes they would flock to it

 

are you insane?do you really think every girl or mom or kid out there really knows or cares much about gaming,they just buying what they think would be good for them?

 

do you think most people buying HDTV's know what the fuckingn difference is there between HDMI 1.2,HDMI 1.3,HDMI 1.4.

NO THEY DUCKING DON'T

DO yo think they know the fucking difference between Polarised and active shutter 3D,NO THEY DON'T?

 

you really think all those who bought Modern WARFARE 2 followed it all along,saw what improvements it had ?]

 

no they didn't as kids wanted to have the 'COOL' thing,play what their friends were playing and everybody else,discuss and have what everybody else had.

 

 

talk a little bit mature

just because most of us on this site care a bout all the little techicle details not everybody else does

you are like one of those person saying just because i know it,you expext everybody else to know it too

Did you even read my post? I never said that everybody else should be aware of the specs and hardware, I mentioned familiarity, brand equity. I also said that people are not aware and don't care about the technical aspects and thus it isn't a deciding factor and yet you make a massive rant about me not being mature and make completely random comments. Some reading comprehension is due.

So you're saying that people are not aware of the differences between the systems and the deciding factor is the 'coolness' of the console? Well that's kinda subjective and I'm pretty sure the Wii is 'cool' right now.

But you do agree with me that a glow in the dark wii would work due to peoples' past experiences? So you're actually agreeing with my by disagreeing???