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AkibaFan on 12 June 2010

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Khuutra on 12 June 2010
twesterm said:
Khuutra said:

Try again. You don't get any advice better than that, sorry; you haven't given any proper side in a conversation that would suggest you need more than that.

You put down a lot of games, and if you can't remember something being wrong with it then there's no reason to assume there was.

So try again.

Sorry, typed that post in a hurry (busy past few days and computer busy doing other things, reason why I've been absent from the topic).  Meant say I tried it twice and there was something that pissed me off about it, I just don't remember what.

I still have it so I'll get to it eventually, I just can't remember why it made me angry last time I played it.  And yes, I do put down a lot of games.  :-p

Fine, then I know what did it.

Make sure you have a Flame Ring for Kaim, and do nothing but cast fire magic with Jansen. By now Seth should be able to use White Magic, but she should probably just be casting fire too.

That first boss is only easy to beat without gaining another level if you go absolutely berserk on it. All offense, all the time.



chocoloco on 12 June 2010

As I wrote in my own bitch about final fantasy XIII thread the JRPG makes you feel like a baseball manager or football coach calling plays and not participating in the action. Gameplay always makes the game and FFXIII's visuals did not save this crappy game. Twesterm got it right the JRPG is slowly dying.



routsounmanman on 12 June 2010
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

Dude. At least FF4 has one of the best rated stories in video games and JRPG's. I agree that overall, FF is far from being the best JRPG series, but to call them shitty, you must have standards that very few games can even hope to equal

FF9 is amazing.

That's all I have to say.


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dtewi on 12 June 2010
routsounmanman said:

And... you're my favorite Vgchartz-er. Again.

You mean I stopped being it at one point?

*sob*



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richardhutnik on 12 June 2010
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

Persona 4 also had the same Auto-Battle. Dragon Quest has Auto-Battle if you set the tactics to it, Tales series has a similar Auto-Battle due to tactics. A lot of JRPG's use a automated battle system. I agree that FFXIII's one was probably one of the worst, but that doesn't make it the only one.

Plus, the whole argument of Auto-Battle is completely annuled for the fact that it wasn't mandatory. No one forced you to play the game with it. That's the same thing about people complaining about Gambits on FFXII.

Persona 4 had direct control.

The difference in FF13, your control over your allies is the lowest in probably any JRPG. 

Well, to me, it then sounds like what allies were in normal JRPGs aren't really allies.  What they normally are, is merely extensions of your game equipment that you manipulate on a battlefield.



dtewi on 12 June 2010
richardhutnik said:

Well, to me, it then sounds like what allies were in normal JRPGs aren't really allies.  What they normally are, is merely extensions of your game equipment that you manipulate on a battlefield.

Erm... yeah?

And?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

lestatdark on 12 June 2010
richardhutnik said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

Persona 4 also had the same Auto-Battle. Dragon Quest has Auto-Battle if you set the tactics to it, Tales series has a similar Auto-Battle due to tactics. A lot of JRPG's use a automated battle system. I agree that FFXIII's one was probably one of the worst, but that doesn't make it the only one.

Plus, the whole argument of Auto-Battle is completely annuled for the fact that it wasn't mandatory. No one forced you to play the game with it. That's the same thing about people complaining about Gambits on FFXII.

Persona 4 had direct control.

The difference in FF13, your control over your allies is the lowest in probably any JRPG. 

Well, to me, it then sounds like what allies were in normal JRPGs aren't really allies.  What they normally are, is merely extensions of your game equipment that you manipulate on a battlefield.

That isn't a fault of JRPG's alone. The only way to have a trully individual ally that isn't just a mere extension of the player, a RPG should be played co-op. Secret of Mana did a fine job in that regard.



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routsounmanman on 12 June 2010
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

Dude. At least FF4 has one of the best rated stories in video games and JRPG's. I agree that overall, FF is far from being the best JRPG series, but to call them shitty, you must have standards that very few games can even hope to equal

FF9 is amazing.

That's all I have to say.

I never said otherwise, that's why it's my fifth favorite FF  

O_o

Fifth!?

What!

Yup

FFVI > FFXII > FFVII > FFIV > FFIX

FFXII above FFIX?! I just lost all respect for you, lestatdark



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lestatdark on 12 June 2010
routsounmanman said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:

Dude. At least FF4 has one of the best rated stories in video games and JRPG's. I agree that overall, FF is far from being the best JRPG series, but to call them shitty, you must have standards that very few games can even hope to equal

FF9 is amazing.

That's all I have to say.

I never said otherwise, that's why it's my fifth favorite FF  

O_o

Fifth!?

What!

Yup

FFVI > FFXII > FFVII > FFIV > FFIX

FFXII above FFIX?! I just lost all respect for you, lestatdark

Bah Demon's Souls > Any FF



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