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jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
Severance said:

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDD........

 

 

 

i still play games not sales


well everybody here does but we discuss gaming news and specially sales

sells are important to the longevity of said consoles, so id say theyre just as important. but not more important. the games should be the sole reason you buy a console, and not because of the name.



Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



im loving this. bring on the facts! keep em comming?



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Severance said:

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDD........

 

 

 

i still play games not sales


well everybody here does but we discuss gaming news and specially sales

sells are important to the longevity of said consoles, so id say theyre just as important. but not more important. the games should be the sole reason you buy a console, and not because of the name.


yeah it is importnant but in this thread where we are discussing sales and you say wtf i just care about games so why the thell are you on the thread if you don't really care



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



im loving this. bring on the facts! keep em comming?

lol

 

i actually wasn't searching for the proof but something else and got this

 

i just couldn't stand that fellow syaing Nintendo just slapped $49 and increased Wii price just to include Wii Sports and that $249 was just becuase of $49 of Wii Sports..........lol



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Solid_Snake4RD said: MARCUSDJACKSON said: Solid_Snake4RD said: Severance said: ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDD........       i still play games not sales well everybody here does but we discuss gaming news and specially sales sells are important to the longevity of said consoles, so id say theyre just as important. but not more important. the games should be the sole reason you buy a console, and not because of the name.

yeah it is importnant but in this thread where we are discussing sales and you say wtf i just care about games so why the thell are you on the thread if you don't really care

im on this thread to get the facts. im not arguing or debatting anything with anybody on this thread. i was just adding depth to the argument. it's not all about the sells.i didn't say WTF. i follow sells just like the majority of the site. i love seeing the sells numbers for software wand hardware but there not as important as games.

P.S no need for the hostility.



Solid_Snake4RD said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



im loving this. bring on the facts! keep em comming?

lol

 

i actually wasn't searching for the proof but something else and got this

 

i just couldn't stand that fellow syaing Nintendo just slapped $49 and increased Wii price just to include Wii Sports and that $249 was just becuase of $49 of Wii Sports..........lol

Uh, maybe you should read the actual article you sourced?  The same Forbes analyst who quoted the Wii margin at $6 in 2008 also quoted it's MSRP as $260 in 2008 (and PS3's as $300 in 2008).  lol.

Meanwhile we have Japanese sources from 2006 saying Wii production cost was about $158 USD and it's wholesale price to retail at $195.99.  Going by your Forbes figures, Nintendo would be losing money per unit anyway from day one on...



jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



im loving this. bring on the facts! keep em comming?

lol

 

i actually wasn't searching for the proof but something else and got this

 

i just couldn't stand that fellow syaing Nintendo just slapped $49 and increased Wii price just to include Wii Sports and that $249 was just becuase of $49 of Wii Sports..........lol

Uh, maybe you should read the actual article you sourced?  The same Forbes analyst who quoted the Wii margin at $6 in 2008 also quoted it's MSRP as $260 in 2008 (and PS3's as $300 in 2008).  lol.

Meanwhile we have Japanese sources from 2006 saying Wii production cost was about $158 USD and it's wholesale price to retail at $195.99.  Going by your Forbes figures, Nintendo would be losing money per unit anyway from day one on...


i am not debating the JAPAN profit but USA

 

that ways in 2008 PS3 fat were making profit in JAPAN too but making a hevay loss here because of recession



Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



im loving this. bring on the facts! keep em comming?

lol

 

i actually wasn't searching for the proof but something else and got this

 

i just couldn't stand that fellow syaing Nintendo just slapped $49 and increased Wii price just to include Wii Sports and that $249 was just becuase of $49 of Wii Sports..........lol

Uh, maybe you should read the actual article you sourced?  The same Forbes analyst who quoted the Wii margin at $6 in 2008 also quoted it's MSRP as $260 in 2008 (and PS3's as $300 in 2008).  lol.

Meanwhile we have Japanese sources from 2006 saying Wii production cost was about $158 USD and it's wholesale price to retail at $195.99.  Going by your Forbes figures, Nintendo would be losing money per unit anyway from day one on...


i am not debating the JAPAN profit but USA

 

that ways in 2008 PS3 fat were making profit in JAPAN too but making a hevay loss here because of recession

lol.  So you're really saying there's a $50 price differential between US and Japan?  Was Nintendo fedexing those Wii's individually 2-day service or something? ;)

And Nintendo didn't make any line/scale/revision savings over 2 years from launch?  Come on... your source can't even get the pricepoints right, it's clearly off.

Again, without Wii Sports (like Japan) Wii would been about $200 (like Japan).  And they'd still having been in the black.



jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

no they would have not launched Wii at $199

 

they just can't increase $249 for a game bundling

 

in 2008 Wii was just profiting $10 on Wii's $249 bundle on the Wii hardware,Wii sports cost wasn't even in it

 

JAPAN alot of things come into play as people are gonna buy nintendo anyways also local shipping and inside currency makes it cheap

when Wii was launched nintendo name was in disgrace in WW in console apart from JAPAN so they just couldn't slap a $249 price tag just to include a game

So you're saying they lost money on Wii in Japan per unit?  Or that shipping costs from China to the US (versus Japan) in bulk account for $40 per unit?  ;)

I think you need to recheck whatever "source" you pulled that $10-profit-in-2008 figure from... 

lol its even less

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6201833.html



im loving this. bring on the facts! keep em comming?

lol

 

i actually wasn't searching for the proof but something else and got this

 

i just couldn't stand that fellow syaing Nintendo just slapped $49 and increased Wii price just to include Wii Sports and that $249 was just becuase of $49 of Wii Sports..........lol

Uh, maybe you should read the actual article you sourced?  The same Forbes analyst who quoted the Wii margin at $6 in 2008 also quoted it's MSRP as $260 in 2008 (and PS3's as $300 in 2008).  lol.

Meanwhile we have Japanese sources from 2006 saying Wii production cost was about $158 USD and it's wholesale price to retail at $195.99.  Going by your Forbes figures, Nintendo would be losing money per unit anyway from day one on...


i am not debating the JAPAN profit but USA

 

that ways in 2008 PS3 fat were making profit in JAPAN too but making a hevay loss here because of recession

lol.  So you're really saying there's a $50 price differential between US and Japan?  Was Nintendo fedexing those Wii's individually 2-day service or something? ;)

And Nintendo didn't make any line/scale/revision savings over 2 years from launch?  Come on... your source can't even get the pricepoints right, it's clearly off.

Again, without Wii Sports (like Japan) Wii would been about $200 (like Japan).  And they'd still having been in the black.


I don't know the whole thing but Wii was barely making $10-15 in 2008 and Wii sports wasn't the reason it was $249

 

that way PS3 in JAPAN was making profit in 2008 but making $40 loss in US at the same price points

 

have are you kidding me that you think they would price Wii sports in Wii's price? - if that was the case why not sell them standalone

 

the gamespot thing wasn't my source,i was searching for something else but it came up and cause we were having this conversation i posted.my source said $10 profit for Wii.it could be that some was killed by recession too

 

but not for Wii sports...........lol