the fate of the 360 will be placed with natal. if its under 100.00$ then 360 performs better, but if its 150.00$ like most think then it wont be as easy

I still believe that the improvements made in the new model 360 like the built in wi-fi, bigger fan, lower failure rate will really boost the 360's sales beyond the ps3 for a good few months and thats without the influence of Kinect which is undecided.

Natal will drown

Move will be slightly more popular: over all i think Move will win because it has the appeal of Kinect (eye toy: there is no diff between the two) and Wii.

399.99 PS3 budle for move is bogus

PS3 10-13m holiday season 2010

360 6-10m holiday season 2010

no , it is 360 time.

kinect will be more popular.

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Well right now 360 has all the momentum going into the holiday season.  Sony may edge out a victory in Europe but I see a landslide victory for the 360 in the US,  but will have to wait and see.

Yeah If Kinect Is a Hit PS3 Will Be left behind, and 360 could end up giving the Wii a Run for its money in 2011.

One thing people keep forgetting about 360's 2008: Japan. 2008 was MS's last great push in that region and while sales did remain relatively low they did improve by a fair bit. 360 was consistently selling around 10k per week and even sold around 30k a couple times. While at the same time PS3 sales were beyond terrible, falling below 10k for several months and being consistently outsold by the 360 in the region for a while. Not to mention that the consoles' holiday sales weren't anything to write home about. The picture has totally changed now, I don't see 360 selling over 10k again this year except possibly once during the holidays. That holiday it sold about 20k multiple times. By contrast once the white PS3 and Move comes out I don't see PS3 selling below 25k for the rest of the year. And the YOY increase is already so huge that even without the slim and FFXIII PS3 will still probably be up YOY in the region. 360 is going to be down by about 150k against both 2008 and 2009 since they sold practically the same both years. Japan, specifically Move and GT5, are going to ensure a PS3 victory this holiday.

I dont think kinect will be the deciding factor. even if it sells well, i think it will sell well for the 1st few weeka, in the US especially. people who are intertested in the PS3 or have a PS3 wont necessarily be interested in kinect. so i think that it will be current xbox oweners who buy it.

like someone else said the 360 will have a landslide victory in the US this fall, and i think thats very possible; thanks to Halo Reach, but all is not lost for sony, their fall line up of games seems to be the best out of the 3 consoles. and it will be intertesing to see how the new medal of honor, which is in lead development on the PS3 will perform, so it will be a very exciting year indeed.

There is only one reason why you think the PS3 is going to outsell the 360 and that is because you want it to.

Well I think sony will edge out this holiday if kinect is priced too high.