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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
BBH said

I am unable to determine Sony's market value. In 2007 is was approximated 52 billion according to Gamespot.

MS, currently in a 7 month low, is currently worth 222 billion approximately.

:P


MS is not $222B WORTH.that is just its market capitalisation

 

SONY Total equity â–² $30.535 billion

Microsoft Total equity â–² $39.558 billion

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony

So no bet, huh?

Don't be scared bro.

Also, lol, if what you say is true, then why is Sony's market capitalization shit?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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Solid_Snake4RD on 08 June 2010
ZenfoldorVGI said:

A few things SolidSnake:

1. I never said or believe that the 360 will outsell the Wii this gen, I don't think I implied it, but if I did, it was a mistake.  I certainly don't believe that.

2. I didn't say Sony didn't have any games coming out, I said the libraries were arguable and comparable. I also didn't specify a year, I don't think.

3. I asked you to make a bet. I believe that you are biased, and you are letting said bias, cloud your judgement, thus, it will be an easy win for me.

4. I'm basing all of my assumptions upon a REDESIGN, not a rebranding, and I believe it is obvious that it will be successful.

5. My bet would be, that if MS announces a new redesigned console with a rebranding, for a price of 299 or less bundled with Natal, then it will outsell the PS3 WW cumlitively for the rest of the year starting the week it launches lasting until Jaunuary 1st 2011. That's not week vs week, that's total sales from the beginning of that week until January 1 2011.

I would wager my sig space, or lack thereof, for 1 month, starting January 5th 2011, against yours with the same parameters.

If that doesn't happen the bet is off.

If it does, then it's on, and one of us pays.

What say you?

I think that the redesign of the 360 combined with Natal and Reach will have a relatively large impact on console sales(not as much as a 100 dollar price cut maybe, but large), and I think that is obvious. If you don't, then take my bet.


1.you were backing selnor who said 360 would sell more than Wii

3.bias on what about sony.you and selnor were just dreaming so how do i become bias by just correcting you.anyways i forgot to reply to the bet part.check to 4. point

4.360 redesign,price cut will be succesfull but not to the height of the PS3 SLIMMER success as they had alot of userbase in the past who were wanting to buy PS3 after owning PS2 so it was a huge success.

 

5.you said if 360 slim natal bundle would be $299 or low - i think if MS launches at a lower price then it could sell more than PS3 but not if 360 natal was $299.SO you saying $299 OR LESS doesn't make a stable bet.you give me a stable condition to what you think will be the price and things included in the SKU



Solid_Snake4RD on 08 June 2010
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
BBH said

I am unable to determine Sony's market value. In 2007 is was approximated 52 billion according to Gamespot.

MS, currently in a 7 month low, is currently worth 222 billion approximately.

:P


MS is not $222B WORTH.that is just its market capitalisation

 

SONY Total equity â–² $30.535 billion

Microsoft Total equity â–² $39.558 billion

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony

So no bet, huh?

Don't be scared bro.

Also, lol, if what you say is true, then why is Sony's market capitalization shit?

DON'T talk like one of those street people

 

who just taunt you to get you to do a thing?

 

i was replying to both of ur comment.replied to which was shorter

 

IT ISN'T SHIT.Equity fluctuates from time to time

if people of the stock market hear one bad news,they just start to sell shares and market drops

 

whole last year SONY was ahead of MS



ZenfoldorVGI on 08 June 2010

I don't know why you think I was backing selnor. I don't even know who that is.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI on 08 June 2010

Here's the bet, for your safety:

If MS lanuches a redesigned console at 299, and it can play 360 games(even if it's name the 3602), it will(combined with all other 360 sales over the same period) outsell the PS3 via a cumlative total from the beginning of its launch week until 01-01-2011.

If you lose, I get your sig space for a month, starting january 5th, if I lose, you get the same.

If no console is launched meeting that criteria, then the best is off. Regarding the redesigned consoles only, if multiple SKUs are launched of the console, and one of the sku's is under 299, then the bet is off. If any of the skus are over 299 the bet is off. There can be only 1 sku, at 299, and it must be combined with existing 360 sales no matter what the prices of those consoles drop or rise to.

In other words, every 360 plus every redesigned 360 sold from launch week until new years will be greater than every PS3 sold from launch week, untils new years.

Bet?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
BBH said

I am unable to determine Sony's market value. In 2007 is was approximated 52 billion according to Gamespot.

MS, currently in a 7 month low, is currently worth 222 billion approximately.

:P


MS is not $222B WORTH.that is just its market capitalisation

 

SONY Total equity â–² $30.535 billion

Microsoft Total equity â–² $39.558 billion

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony

So no bet, huh?

Don't be scared bro.

Also, lol, if what you say is true, then why is Sony's market capitalization shit?

DON'T talk like one of those street people

 

who just taunt you to get you to do a thing?

 

i was replying to both of ur comment.replied to which was shorter

 

IT ISN'T SHIT.Equity fluctuates from time to time

if people of the stock market hear one bad news,they just start to sell shares and market drops

 

whole last year SONY was ahead of MS

If you in it, represent it.

Plus it IS shit, is MS is rocking a 50b to 200b ratio, while sony is rocking 1 to 1.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Solid_Snake4RD on 08 June 2010
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
BBH said

I am unable to determine Sony's market value. In 2007 is was approximated 52 billion according to Gamespot.

MS, currently in a 7 month low, is currently worth 222 billion approximately.

:P


MS is not $222B WORTH.that is just its market capitalisation

 

SONY Total equity â–² $30.535 billion

Microsoft Total equity â–² $39.558 billion

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony

So no bet, huh?

Don't be scared bro.

Also, lol, if what you say is true, then why is Sony's market capitalization shit?

DON'T talk like one of those street people

 

who just taunt you to get you to do a thing?

 

i was replying to both of ur comment.replied to which was shorter

 

IT ISN'T SHIT.Equity fluctuates from time to time

if people of the stock market hear one bad news,they just start to sell shares and market drops

 

whole last year SONY was ahead of MS

If you in it, represent it.

Plus it IS shit, is MS is rocking a 50b to 200b ratio, while sony is rocking 1 to 1.


i don't know how to think MS is going to $200

 

$220 is MS's market captilisation

 

$39b is MS's equity

 

and i'm not representing anybody,just saying what is correct.

 

if you think you represent MS and its goals then that is you



Solid_Snake4RD on 09 June 2010
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Here's the bet, for your safety:

If MS lanuches a redesigned console at 299, and it can play 360 games(even if it's name the 3602), it will(combined with all other 360 sales over the same period) outsell the PS3 via a cumlative total from the beginning of its launch week until 01-01-2011.

If you lose, I get your sig space for a month, starting january 5th, if I lose, you get the same.

If no console is launched meeting that criteria, then the best is off. Regarding the redesigned consoles only, if multiple SKUs are launched of the console, and one of the sku's is under 299, then the bet is off. If any of the skus are over 299 the bet is off. There can be only 1 sku, at 299, and it must be combined with existing 360 sales no matter what the prices of those consoles drop or rise to.

In other words, every 360 plus every redesigned 360 sold from launch week until new years will be greater than every PS3 sold from launch week, untils new years.

Bet?


you made it more complex

 

what do you mean by "it can play 360 games".obviosly it is gonna play 360 games unless you are saying XBOX 3 and it playing 360 games.if that happened then it will sell more than PS3.



ZenfoldorVGI on 09 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Here's the bet, for your safety:

If MS lanuches a redesigned console at 299, and it can play 360 games(even if it's name the 3602), it will(combined with all other 360 sales over the same period) outsell the PS3 via a cumlative total from the beginning of its launch week until 01-01-2011.

If you lose, I get your sig space for a month, starting january 5th, if I lose, you get the same.

If no console is launched meeting that criteria, then the best is off. Regarding the redesigned consoles only, if multiple SKUs are launched of the console, and one of the sku's is under 299, then the bet is off. If any of the skus are over 299 the bet is off. There can be only 1 sku, at 299, and it must be combined with existing 360 sales no matter what the prices of those consoles drop or rise to.

In other words, every 360 plus every redesigned 360 sold from launch week until new years will be greater than every PS3 sold from launch week, untils new years.

Bet?


you made it more complex

 

what do you mean by "it can play 360 games".obviosly it is gonna play 360 games unless you are saying XBOX 3 and it playing 360 games.if that happened then it will sell more than PS3.

I believe they are going to come out with some new looking console, call it the Microsoft Redass or something like that, and you will say, "Oh, it's not an Xbox, so "Xbox" didn't outsell the PS3.

What I'm saying, basically, is this: MS will come out with a rebranded, redesigned console, and whatever the hell that is callled, plus what the original Xbox 360 sells, will outsell the PS3 overall, from the day it launches until new years.

Do you disagree?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

darthdevidem01 on 09 June 2010

I support zenfolder not solid_snake4RD! (you let mgs4 down man  )



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