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I typically buy new for big games that I know will be worth the purchase such as Halo...and I buy games that I kind of want used.



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mirgro said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
mirgro said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

...and yes mirgro, please do provide links, I will take a look and let you know what I think.


The GAO study:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/us-government-finally-admits-most-piracy-estimates-are-bogus.ars

There is a link to the PDF in there.

The Dutch study:

http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/01/dutch-government-study-net-effect-of-p2p-use-is-positive.ars

The report they linked to was in all Dutch and 150 pages, but the link is in there as well if I remember correctly. (Notice that it says taht specifically for games, pirates buy even more than non-pirates).

Edit: It seems that the actual document of the Dutch study has been taken down from their sites, maybe I can find it stored somewhere. Also still looking for the IFPI report, it seems ot have gone underground.

Ok, so the GAO study ONLY says that it is impossible to determine the economic impact of piracy. It is also related to piracy of all types, not just videogames.

So, my question to you is, if your study says that it is impossible to determine how piracy effects game sales, then doesn't that mean that none of the other studies mean anything at all? Also, doesn't that mean that the effects of piracy could actually be WORSE than expected?

Now, I don't think that every instance of piracy is a sale lost, but I do think that it costs a lot of sales, especially amongst consoles like the PSP where it is so easy, and where many people obviously would buy games if they couldn't download all they want for free....

So, again, the study you presented isn't significant to this conversation, imo. It would only be significant if I were pointing to other studies to prove my point. My logic tells me that piracy causes games not to sell in some cases, and facts tell me that with used games, money stiumlates the economy and with piracy it does not.

The complete effect of piracy is unknown and undeterminable accoriding to your study.

And the Dutch/ IFPI results?


I was waiting for the link to the actual study. :P



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

I'm the type of person that has to get everything new because I can't stand buying anything used.



i never buy used games with cases that arn't in mint condition.



EVEN YOU CAN OUTRUN THE FASTEST MAN, IF HE DOES NOT START THE RACE.

 

CANT WEAR Mckinleys JEANS CAUSE MY WARDS DONT FIT.

I typically buy used, or new games on clearance/sale/comes with some sort of gift card. I rarely buy new games at full price (exceptions being Wii Fit, Wii Sports Resort, Brawl and Galaxy).