I have a new worry for us all, with every company (sony, ms and ninty on the motion bandwagon), do you think thee is a chance for the shovelware problem to get so big that it send's us backward to the atari days??

I mean that caused big problems as people stopped buying games, because companies was too happy to pop out poor quality game in the hope of making $$??

I hope this is not the case as sony has already shown it has hardcore titles(socom 4, lbp2) lined up for the move, but I still think we all need to be a little bit worried about what motion gaming will bring to this generation.

I also think this is the reason why a lot of people are againt motion control, personally I cannot wait for socom 4 and ape escape but I do not want the industry to take a step backwards in quality of games.

Please discuss and no copy or clone moaning allowed!!

"no copy and clone moaning"? what the hell does that mean?

and this "worry" you have for us all isn't remotely new ...

Basically no winging about who copied who allowed.

Or you'll what?

...Excuse me?

Why should the existence of motion control decrease overall quality of games? If you're making a Move/Natal game, you're selling to a smaller audience than if you were making a regular controller game! Yes, the Wii has quite a large quantity of shovelware, like the PS2, and every winning console before it. The console with the largest user base has the largest userbase willing to buy crap.

Shovelware has nothing to do with motion control. A bad game is a bad game. People won't buy it (9 times out of 10)

David Cameron copied Obama.

There, I broke the rules of the thread

^^think about it if you have games with tacked on controls, as with what happened on the wii, lots of fans will be uspet.

or what if you just get casual games on the natal, that user base is soley used to more hardcore experiences, i honestly do not know how they would react tho that kind of change.

also normally I am very positive about what ps move can bring to the future of games, I am just saying that if developers don't make usuage of their capabilities it could be a very bad thing for us all.

very funny we all know what i am going on about, but 10/10 for a good joke

Yup, and people wouldn't buy those games, and the company would stop making them.

We're not going to get landfills full of Blu-ray discs.

yeah and hopefully no landfills of DVD's for natal games::P:P
i know what you are saying, but do you understand, if games developers have not learnt from the atari' days (making bad games) results in people not buying the bad games , and then they end up going out of business, the game industry was in big trouble back then because it got so bad, i am just saying i do not want the same thing to happen