Disreguard this. The post went skrewy when I posted it. 

I like you Albion. You're very aloof in discussion. Defiantly a breath of fresh air.

As for do I think Sony or Microsoft will impact Nintendo, no, I do not. The reason I do not think is so is because I don't think Move or Natal will be success. The key to make them work is to make games that use them well. I'm not confident that Sony nor Microsoft could do it because their first party developers are not as good as Nintendo (most, if not all, of their developers are teams they bought. This is opposed to Nintendo which has game developers and the hardware teams across the room.) Third parties have also shown they know nothing about selling to the new audience nor using motion controls well. They have been outclassed by Nintendo, so Microsoft and Sony can't rely on them like they have in the past. Now, given, Natal is a good idea where I think Move is a blatant rip off (even the games are all stuff you can get on the Wii). It is defiantly something Nintendo would worry about. The problem is I don't think Microsoft can pull it off as they should.</p>

As for Prince of Persia, remember the Wii audience is different. They may not buy the same game that PS3 and 360 owners may buy.

Your vision of the future is something I've heard from others as well. Sony, especially, has put themselves in between a rock and a hard place. They can't go the Wii route and make a system that is only a moderate upgrade because their core audience will demand it to be better. If it goes to be more powerful, it will be more expensive, more costly, and overshoot the market even more (meaning that it's too much for consumers and they don't buy it). Microsoft's goal to to beat out Sony so I doubt they'll care.

Of course, it's been fun talking to you!

@Dixiekong: You bring up a very important point. The Wii, in part, can do so well because it stands out. The PS3 and the 360 are so similar and in such tough competition that they gore each other. Nintendo might be afraid that they might get stuck in a 3 way Melee of slashing prices and big marketing. This may be why we say the Vitality Sensor before a game was shown. It is a tool to differentiate themselves further.

@Smashchu2 Yes, I also believe that the Vitality Sensor will be Nintendo's next step to creating a new experience and trying to further expand the audience it currently has. I think after the previous two generations that Nintendo really wants to differentiate themselves from their competitors and not compete directly with them, since that is the reason why they are doing so well now compared to how they were doing during the Nintendo 64 and GameCube eras. 

Looks like someome had their Weaties this morning.

You hit the nail on the head. When ever Nintendo tries to be like their competition, they lose. When they don't, and go down a different path, they succeed. Nintendo trying to keep themselves unique is going to be what keeps them going.

At the end of Blue Ocean Strategy it mentions that competitors will come in and try to take some of the new market. To be successful, the company needs to keep moving. Much like in the movies, you just keep swiming wildly while the bad guys miss with all their shots. The more you move, the better off you are. Nintendo is definatly taking a page from this. This may be why the Vitality Sensor was shown with no software. It's to show how they keep moving. 3DS is probably another dodge by Nintendo, and probably a counter attack.

I was reading somewhere that the new 3DTVs have a chip in it that turns old normal DvDs into 3D.

You think they could  put that into the 3DS?

I read theres something imposibly powerfull in there could this be it

i dont think nintendo or Miyamoto needs to worry about either of them. i dont think they will do that well. but i do feel Natal will do better than Move.

I'm not up to date with all the 3D technology, so I wouldn't give you a straight answer. From what I'm picturing, it is possible, but it may not be the primary method. What I guess that chip does is make the DVD render two images that will make everything pop out. I think that they would use another device for the 3DS as I doubt they have plans to make their old games 3D.

Would be weird if all of a sudden every known DS games already made instantly become 3D if you play them on the 3DS. They would skip that initial lack of software support for it at launch. So mabe games designed specificly to look 3D will look that much better. But at first when everyone will be just seeing it for the first time, that feel of awe will not have settled in yet.

From a marketing pointe it would makes sense. Plus its not like making games for the DS will cost companies much money if the 3DS can already take old games and make them 3D looking.

This to me fits the Nintendo Glove. I can see them pulling somthing like this at E3.

@Smashchu2 Yes, I also believe that Sean Malstrom mentioned in one of his articles that he feels that the 3DS will be a very disruptive product and that it won't be like anything we have typically seen from Nintendo. I think he also might be suggesting that it is some sort of counter attack. I'm very interested to see what the 3DS will be like when Nintendo shows it at their E3 conference.

Well, I wouldn't call it a counter attack par say. I used that as I see Nintendo dodging the oncoming motion control battle and fight with a new disruptive valuve.

You can see I read a lot of Malstrom's stuff yes? I also agree that their goal is to whipe out Sony (which is why I see as a head one assult rather then a counter attack). For all of Nintendo's history as a game company, they have only had two real competitors: Sega and Sony. Sega was kicked out of the console business thanks to Sony and bad financial management. But Sony is still around. I think Nintendo is thinking longer term. Sony won because it can leverage it's resources. It can leverage factories, it can leverage markets thanks to it's large assest, it can evern leverage third parties with it's money hatting. This is something Nintendo can't do. Nintendo saw Sega whiped out by Sony, and they think it can happen to them. So, for their survival, they must destory Sony. Not just their game division, but their entire company.

Yes, I will agree, the 3DS will be something like we've never seen, much like the DS and the Wii. Nintendo is going all out here.

@Albion: It's possible for Nintendo to make the DS games 3D, but I don't think Nintendo's purpose is for visuals. But it is very likely Sony might do what you say.