I do have very low tolerence of certain types of people, that is indeed very true. That said, there are plenty of people who I neither belittle, criticize, or prejudge. Though I have never actually even come close to thinking that I know someone because of some stupid post they made on a forum on the internet, so I don't know where you got the judgemental part from.

I also never said I matured, or grew up, quite the opposite, I said I'm very young. All I said is that I have come to see large numbers of people, and it has led me to lose just about all "innocence" and ideas I had just a few shot years ago. Doesn't mean I'm mature, just means I'm realisitc. For all I know you are more mature than me, but I do know you are also more unrealistic than I am.

wow this debate is still goin

like migro and kasz said alot of opinions are bs

when theres to much againts them

and still we all know ninja theory are just sayin this bcuz of uncharted 2

I bet the dont even care about jak and dax or crash bandicoot

ND gets alot of praise now bcuz of U2 but before that, most of their games have been pretty average. So to say they're the best, that means that crash was the best platformer and jak and dax was the best adventure/platformer game among many others.

 Nobody in their right mind would've said that b4 U2

whats next guerilla games are the best just bcuz of kz2 lookin so good when the first one wasnt that impressive

to say someting like that, you gotta look to their past work 2 and they havnt brought enough classic to be among the best

and nobody can really argue that others developer like miyamoto, have done that

Of course I don't think that way. This is why I said earlier that in the context of a core developer only I could see how someone might call them the best given certain criteria but in a wider context that there were much bigger developers with much greater overall achievements. I acknowledged both sides of the argument at once and yet you accuse me of laying my opinion out as if its better than everyone else?

I always think I'm right when I debate something, because if I think i'm wrong I STOP debating... you know, because I think i'm wrong.  Why would you argue for something even you yourself don't believe.  That's basically the definition of intellectual dishonesty.

As for it sounding narcisistic... once again I don't see how.  If someone can constantly poke holes in every arguement you have... it's clear your arguement has holes and problems and should be reevalutated.  Furthermore I stated that it happens to me all the time.

I for the life of me can't get what your going on about.  First that it's that I keep finding flaws in your arguements that make me sound right.... and now it's that I think i'm always right in a debate? 

There are plenty of opinions I can agree with that I disagree with.

However those opinions have well reasoned arguements behind them.

If you can't come up with an arguement to back up your opinion or someone elses other then "hey it's my opinion."

Your opinion doesn't deserve respect.  Opinions MUST have something backing them up to be taken seriously.

Heck, otherwise I could say "Damon Jones is the best videogame developer in the world."

There is PLENTY of room for differing opinions.   However said opinions need to be well supported.  If you can see why they feel that way, you would do better to set out why people see it as such rather then the bogus "every opinion is just as right as the next" rhetoric... which even you seem to be doubting since you've yet to come out and say...

"Yes the opinion that Damon Jones is the best basketball player is just as right as the opinion that Michael Jordan is."

Wait, does this mean that I can't think that Metallica or Iron Maiden are the greatest bands in the world since Elvis and The Beatles sold more records are were/are overall more popular?

Anyway, its fine to disagree but don't call people idiots for having different opinions (not you kasz, you're generally polite in your debates).

Actually, I have argued the exact opposite, that popularity and sales are only an indication of entertainment, and not quality at all. As I said, entertaining garbage like Avatar has done better than Godfather part 2.

Edit: To elaborate further. Let's take the R.A. Salvatore books and Heat of Darkness. I have read just about all of R.A.'s books, thousnds and thousands of pages, ad I would gladly reread them at any time. Meanwhile when I read heart of Darkness, I was almost suffering from physical pain. That said, you will never see me say "Drizzt's books are bette than Heart of Darkness," because that is simply not true. In fact the only people who would ever make such a claim are the ones who are obviously uneducated in literature.

Now if we take Chandler's works (hehe, Marlow vs Marlowe) which I absolutely loved, and compare them to HoD, I would have to go through a process examining each book/s' s literary value in terms of writing, motif, themes, etc. However not even for a second would I even consider the fact that I loved Chandler's work more than HoD as anything more than a simple whim. My personal whims do not affect the quality of the books, nor do anyone else's.

My opinion is that R.A. Salvatore's and Raymond Chandler's books are more interesting/fun/enteraing/etc. than Conrad's. However Conrad's book is infinitely better than R.A.'s, and in the worst case scenario, on equal footing with Chandler's.

The same idea applies to just about everything. Some people like Pippen more than Jordan, but Jordan is still the better player. Many people like Avatar more than The Godfather, many people like Miley Cyrus more than Queen, and many people probably like some modern age painter more than Dali or Picasso. The point is, just because people like something more, doesn't actually make it true. I respect people's opinions, as long as they don't try to say that something is true solely because of their opinion, those are the ones I label as idiots. They need some backing for their opinions, or if they don't they should just accept the fact that their opinion is not in line with reality.

The problem arises when you have people who try to push off opinion as something golden that just cannot be wrong no matter what. In reality, there are people who are right and people who are wrong. When it comes to enetainment that way of thinking is even more predominant than elsewhere because no one wants to think of their choice as worse than someone else's. Truth is, people's opinions can be much different than reality, and if someone can't accept that then they are just as insecure as those guys who used to come out of the dorm showers already fully clcothed. Sometimes you just have to accept that what you like isn't the best in a given field of entertainment, and just live with it.

P.S. I really cacn't say whether Metallica or The Beatles are  better.

Sure you can. That would only mean they are among your favorites which would be in your opinion and not actually wrong but may not be true to someone else.    

@Everyone else this is only one guy's opinion just because he works at Ninja Theory doesn't mean his viewpoint should be taken as absolute fact.  

Nevertheless please carry on:)     

One of the best but not the best. They're at a lower level then say Nintendo, Blizzard and Valve are. But still, they're very great and could maybe eventually reach such lofty levels.

I agree, ND is kick'n ass RIGHT NOW.

Untangle your underwear gentlemen, nobody actually believes ND to be the end all best developers ever. It's just that recently they've taken a rather obscure series(Uncharted....duh), and made it into a game that actually defines this generation of gaming for some(believe it or not). They deserve some attention for that. Although too much attention could get annoying.

@Kasz216

Yep, opinions not grounded by at least some tiny fragment of truth, could be called inferior ones. I don't think I would go as far as calling the originator of such opinions "retarded" like that other user did though.

Oh I wouldn't either.  Namecalling is definitly over the line, even if your opinion is dumb.  Still, all opinions are not equal.

Quite honestly I'm more likely to respect an informed opinion I think is wrong, then an unformed opinion that I think is right.