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flash runs like shit on chrome for some odd reason, that's why I'm sticking to Firefox for now. It's also a big resource hog even in windows with hardware acceleration, they need to revisit their code.



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kingofwale said:
Jaguarandine said:

While YMMV, I've been running Ubuntu for years and have constantly had problems with flash. For me, freezes, crashes, and overall mediocre performance is not uncommon. And I think most Linux users who know about this subject can agree: performance of flash under Linux is much worse than under Windows.

This isn't a Linux problem or a Mac one, per se. It's an Adobe problem. And as long as Windows controls 90% of the market, Adobe has no real incentive to cater to the needs of minority OSes. Let's look at the facts; that flash is a closed source format which only Adobe can tweak to improve or modify. Which means we are at there mercy if there are any problems.

Let's look past the fact that Steve Jobs is a very rich man, and that it's the in thing to criticize such people. Or that Apple is one of the success stories of the last decade, much to the chagrin of "normal" computer folk. Flash is a resource-hungry, bloated program, created by a company that has no reason whatsoever to improve its performance.

A move to an open standard would be by far the best solution for everyone, regardless of the OS they use.

With that said, VGChartz is one of the most flash-heavy sites that I browse, and with flash enabled, it usually slows to a crawl. I usually use a flash-blocker when I can. If possible, switching to HTML5 would be fantastic.

kinda funny coming from a Mac and iPod touch owner. ;)

 

still, I have no problem with Flash,

 

Agreed, Apple is the most closed standards out of anyone.

Remmber Flash is only one option for developers. Java is still available.



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kingofwale said:
Jaguarandine said:

While YMMV, I've been running Ubuntu for years and have constantly had problems with flash. For me, freezes, crashes, and overall mediocre performance is not uncommon. And I think most Linux users who know about this subject can agree: performance of flash under Linux is much worse than under Windows.

This isn't a Linux problem or a Mac one, per se. It's an Adobe problem. And as long as Windows controls 90% of the market, Adobe has no real incentive to cater to the needs of minority OSes. Let's look at the facts; that flash is a closed source format which only Adobe can tweak to improve or modify. Which means we are at there mercy if there are any problems.

Let's look past the fact that Steve Jobs is a very rich man, and that it's the in thing to criticize such people. Or that Apple is one of the success stories of the last decade, much to the chagrin of "normal" computer folk. Flash is a resource-hungry, bloated program, created by a company that has no reason whatsoever to improve its performance.

A move to an open standard would be by far the best solution for everyone, regardless of the OS they use.

With that said, VGChartz is one of the most flash-heavy sites that I browse, and with flash enabled, it usually slows to a crawl. I usually use a flash-blocker when I can. If possible, switching to HTML5 would be fantastic.

kinda funny coming from a Mac and iPod touch owner. ;)

 

still, I have no problem with Flash,

 


  Huh? What gave you the impression that I own those?



Jaguarandine said:
kingofwale said:
Jaguarandine said:

While YMMV, I've been running Ubuntu for years and have constantly had problems with flash. For me, freezes, crashes, and overall mediocre performance is not uncommon. And I think most Linux users who know about this subject can agree: performance of flash under Linux is much worse than under Windows.

This isn't a Linux problem or a Mac one, per se. It's an Adobe problem. And as long as Windows controls 90% of the market, Adobe has no real incentive to cater to the needs of minority OSes. Let's look at the facts; that flash is a closed source format which only Adobe can tweak to improve or modify. Which means we are at there mercy if there are any problems.

Let's look past the fact that Steve Jobs is a very rich man, and that it's the in thing to criticize such people. Or that Apple is one of the success stories of the last decade, much to the chagrin of "normal" computer folk. Flash is a resource-hungry, bloated program, created by a company that has no reason whatsoever to improve its performance.

A move to an open standard would be by far the best solution for everyone, regardless of the OS they use.

With that said, VGChartz is one of the most flash-heavy sites that I browse, and with flash enabled, it usually slows to a crawl. I usually use a flash-blocker when I can. If possible, switching to HTML5 would be fantastic.

kinda funny coming from a Mac and iPod touch owner. ;)

 

still, I have no problem with Flash,

 


  Huh? What gave you the impression that I own those?

Your blind-eye towards the fact Apple wants nothing more then a completely closed platform. Which is what they have with all their products. Why else do you not see Apple PCs being sold at Walmart, Best Buy, etc. More people would then want more control over their product pricing and hardware.



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Full HTML5 still isnt supported by some browsers and isn't quite ready for the big time yet in some forms. However, with that said, VGC 3.0 will be faster and with less Flash (I actually don't see ANY flash at all right now on the new designs)



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I'm really wondering why Flash is bringing the site down. I've made much more heavy-Flash sites, and they run faster. I think it's the ads that bring down the site.



but HTML5 is not anywhere near final spec, browser support is still patchy and it's not even faster than flash all of the time. wouldn't tried and true methods of web interactivity be better?



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The Flash widgets that are currently on the homepage will be gone in VGC 3.0 so hopefully there will be less strain on people's CPUs! :)