....I can't even... I mean.... are you trying to make me angry on purpose?

Nope, but if you want to argue why Vivi isn't even remotely far from being the best FF character, bring it on

Because Hope only lost his mother, I mean mothers aren't important, a kid shouldn't be attached to his mum, how terrible! Lets add in he got turned into something his whole world had been telling him is the greatest evil of all.. Of course he shouldn't whine he should've said "oh well she's dead, time to move on", "oh well who cares if I'm a l'cie...I'm only 14 but I'll act like I'm 100 years old & pretend to be wise". /sarcasm

Hope was much stronger than I expected & a fantastic character, his development throughout the game was extremely well done. I have no complaints against him & Lightning showed her motherly skills!

So 1. Hope's voice wasn't annoying

2. He has more reason than any FF character ever to be whiny, considering his age he was in control pretty well.

There's nothing to argue since Vivi is amazing.

If you think otherwise, you're wrong.

Given that Vivi was just an attempt at personification of the old Black Mage from FF1, then he falls a bit short of amazing

If you want some actually good Black Mages, then Palom and Porom are better than Vivi anytime xD  

Him looking like an FF1 black mage was a throwback.

He was not an attempt at personifying it. The idea for his character did not stem from "Hey, you remember FF1? Let's make a real character of the black mage.

His backstory is great

His personality is great.

I don't even have to get into why FF4's characters were not all that great.

And Porom was a white mage.

And they were the generic brother and siter (except for that one non-generic thing).

@CGI

Palom & Porom RULE!

I loved them.....laughed with them & cried for them in FF4!

They are so amazing FF13's best chapter is set in a city thats kinda named after them

well I'm pretty sure it's named after them. As I'm sure you know uhh palum polum = parum porum or any weird combo in japanese cause of japanese :P

Right, because any generic brother and sister in such young age sacrificed themselves as stone statues for the rest of the group to save the world.... oh wait

Well, you'll have to try harder than that, since FF4 had one of the best FF stories and characters made so far. Oh and don't get me started about Vivi's backstory. Even Zidane and Kuja's backstory in Terra was better than Vivi's.  

Right, that's the only thing that wasn't generic.

But the characters in FF4 have an unnatural obsession with sacrifice.

FF4's story was mediocre. The characters all had the personality of feet. Cecil was the only tolerable character in the game.

And did you even go to Quan's Dwelling in FF9? And seriously, you are an idiot if you think Zidane's backstory was better than Vivi's.