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Whats the most important aspect for PC gaming?

CPU 5 11.90%
 
GPU 34 80.95%
 
RAM 0 0%
 
HDD 0 0%
 
Cooling/Power usage/Screen Res 1 2.38%
 
Other 2 4.76%
 
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Soleron on 11 May 2010
ssj12 said:
Soleron said:
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Not really, no. Even without OCing a PC I recommend a third-party cooler. The stock coolers with any CPU suck hard. PC cases, find one with at least one front fan, a side panel fan, and a rear fan. Or be like me who has 2 front panel, 1 side, 1 back, and 2 top. The more airflow through the system the better it will run no matter what. Otherwise water cool the entire system.

I've seen few reviews recommend that unless you OC, but if you find it works better then I'm not against it.



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Slimebeast on 11 May 2010
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Slimebeast said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:

Dx11?

and nice, finally a simple answer, the 5770 really should blow Vindictus out of the water then. :P others said its overkill but just making sure any time i get the chance. :P the game recco's a 7xxx nVidia geforce series or equal heres the details...

http://www.softmmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Vindictus_03.jpg

holy crap @ the ram... just noticed its 1GB max... lol wtf at 8gb?! rofl.

Direct X is a built in program thingy for graphics in the operating system. I can't explain it properly, but there's really not much about it you need to know. Direct X has different versions coming out every few years, every new version aloows for better graphics effects. Not all GPUs support the latest version which is 11 and came out less than a year ago.

Your graphics card 5770 supports DX11 effects. But you also need to run Vista or Windows 7 (which I assume you have). Windows XP only supports Dx 9 or less.

Apparently Vindictus uses the Source engine, meaning a 5770 can run it on max but not with a huge margin (well, probably quite huge). So, you got a perfect card for the game.

mhm windows 7 home premz.

So basiclly this DX11 thing is really good since only few cards support it huh? thats pretty awesome!

@bolded- so does that mean it really should run everything on max or what? heard shadows effect lag many games for some reason so if that needs to be turned off no big deal. lol perfect card for this game huh? nice to know thanks, was going to pick a 4850 but i heard about that DX11 thing and the specs to compare were overall 5770 > 4850 so...

 

From the little I've seen of Vindictus videos it doesnt seem to have advanced graphics, not even for a Source engine game. Shouldnt be any problem to max out even in high resolutions. Yeah, the 4850 is same speed as your card minus DX11. I have a 4850 and it runs all Source engine games on max, at least everything that came out before Left 4 Dead.



Scoobes on 11 May 2010
Soleron said:
@Scoobes

Surely the stock GPU and CPU cooling is fine if you don't plan to OC? And any normal ATX case will have good enough case fans?

Depends, didn't Nvidia have a case of overheating GPUs a while back?

Anyway, my point was more about the PSU. I've had a few poor ones ruin my computers (you get what you pay for, lol), and if you want decent upgrade potential then a decent and high wattage PSU is essential.




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Slimebeast on 11 May 2010

The importance of cooling and a high quality PSU is so exaggerated it's not even funny. Really effective marketing from PSU and fan makers augmented by over-clocker geeks on hardware forums who love to promote fancy high-end stuff.

Stock cooling is always enough if you don't overclock more than 5-10%.

PSUs only need to provide the Watts that the system uses under maximum stress plus a little safety margin. Everything above that is a waste.



Scoobes on 11 May 2010

@ Slimebeast

The PSU is still not something you can skimp on though. Buy a cheap CPU, your computer will run a bit slower. Buy a cheap GPU and you won't be able to run as many games. Buy a cheap PSU and your computer will kick the bucket after about a year, at least in my experience.

This is from my experience of upgrading to more powerful GPUs with cheap 500W PSUs which have died on me (not immediately, but rather quickly after), even though they were well above the wattage needed.




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Slimebeast on 11 May 2010
Scoobes said:
@ Slimebeast

The PSU is still not something you can skimp on though. Buy a cheap CPU, your computer will run a bit slower. Buy a cheap GPU and you won't be able to run as many games. Buy a cheap PSU and your computer will kick the bucket after about a year, at least in my experience.

This is from my experience of upgrading to more powerful GPUs with cheap 500W PSUs which have died on me (not immediately, but rather quickly after), even though they were well above the wattage needed.

I know they lose power by age but they don't break every often. And even if it would break why not just buy a new one?



Soleron on 11 May 2010
Scoobes said:
Soleron said:
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Depends, didn't Nvidia have a case of overheating GPUs a while back?

 

Yes, that was 100% their fault.

 

Anyway, my point was more about the PSU. I've had a few poor ones ruin my computers (you get what you pay for, lol), and if you want decent upgrade potential then a decent and high wattage PSU is essential.

Agreed there. Quality PSUs are always worth it. But I'd look for efficiency (80Plus etc.) rather than max wattage; most PCs will get by on <250W so I'd buy 400-500W for a large safety margin.



Scoobes on 12 May 2010
Slimebeast said:
Scoobes said:
@ Slimebeast

The PSU is still not something you can skimp on though. Buy a cheap CPU, your computer will run a bit slower. Buy a cheap GPU and you won't be able to run as many games. Buy a cheap PSU and your computer will kick the bucket after about a year, at least in my experience.

This is from my experience of upgrading to more powerful GPUs with cheap 500W PSUs which have died on me (not immediately, but rather quickly after), even though they were well above the wattage needed.

I know they lose power by age but they don't break every often. And even if it would break why not just buy a new one?

Isn't that kinda backward. My point was it's worth spending the money on a decent PSU that'll last so you don't have to buy a new one later down the line because its broken or because you want to upgrade. Especially if you're on a budget, not having to spend extra money on a new PSU (because you splurged initially) frees up money for that new video card.




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maverick40 on 12 May 2010
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:

New to PC gaming, haven't hardcored it for many years, atleast 7 or more now... due to having a relic 2001 PC for two gaming gens... ready to get back on the sattle and have at it now that i have a new high end rig. (i think?)

 

Still not certain whats best for what as far as gaming goes, but im leaning more towards in the end, GPU > All.

 

Heres the specs of my new beast...

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-750 quad-core processor [2.66GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]

GPU: 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5770

RAM: 8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs] from 6GB

HDD: 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive

Screen Res/Size: 18.5 inchs / 1920x1480 or something like that, forget really.


back at tomshardware and the hqf's they said i7 is a must... but i call bs because hyperthreading doesn't do jack for gaming. that much i do know.

very nice set up, what games do you plan to play on it?



Slimebeast on 12 May 2010
Scoobes said:
Slimebeast said:
Scoobes said:
@ Slimebeast

The PSU is still not something you can skimp on though. Buy a cheap CPU, your computer will run a bit slower. Buy a cheap GPU and you won't be able to run as many games. Buy a cheap PSU and your computer will kick the bucket after about a year, at least in my experience.

This is from my experience of upgrading to more powerful GPUs with cheap 500W PSUs which have died on me (not immediately, but rather quickly after), even though they were well above the wattage needed.

I know they lose power by age but they don't break every often. And even if it would break why not just buy a new one?

Isn't that kinda backward. My point was it's worth spending the money on a decent PSU that'll last so you don't have to buy a new one later down the line because its broken or because you want to upgrade. Especially if you're on a budget, not having to spend extra money on a new PSU (because you splurged initially) frees up money for that new video card.

Your right. It's also a big pain to switch PSUs if the case is small.