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GT5, MGS 4, GTA IV, Killzone 2, White Knight Story and Tekken 6 beg to differ with your assessment.

This was the weakest year for the PS3, highest price, few big exclusives and even less big sequels (exactly 1).

I also expect another PS3 price cut before GTA and MGS 4 come out.



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2008 WILL BE THE PS3'S YEAR!!!! SONY HAS MGS4,FF13 BOTH OF THEM, GTA4, GT5,WHITE KNIGHT STORY, EIGHT DAYS, WIPEOUT PS3, BURNOUT PARADISE, FALL OUT 3, AND POSSIBLY RESISTANCE 2, PLUS ALL OF TH0SE UNANNOUNCED GAMES.

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I find it pretty doubtful that anything in the future is going to be as bad for them as 2007 was.

And there may be a few surprises. For instance, properly marketed, LittleBigPlanet could become the PS3's Wii Sports, or Nintendogs... well, probably not that big. But I think that it, and maybe some of the PS Eye stuff if it ever manifests into a real product, could help them make some serious inroads into the casual market.



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I hope this was a joke topic. Also the PS3 is already very competitive with 360.



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Sony is unquestionably going to clean house in 2008. This holiday season is the final hurrah for the PS2, but next year everything comes together. The PS3 will be down to $299/299EUR, maybe as soon as summer, HDTVs will be cheap and plentiful, BluRay will sweep the field, and there will be a metric ton of AAA software titles. Basically, all the factors which slowed down the PS3 -- high price, lack of HDTV users, lack of games -- kick into reverse, all at once.

Nintendo will continue to romp, of course, but it'll be interesting to see Microsoft's response.



2008 could be the doom of PS3. But that's not yet decided. I think a more appropriate premptive term would be is it's the Deciding Year for PS3. If PS3 continues sales like it did in 2007, in 2008, then it'll make it impossible to catch Wii. If it turns it up and starts at least outselling Wii a little bit then there is a brighter future. Remember to gain on someone, you have to sell more them. Meaning simply not being outsold by as much doesn't cut it.

IN 2008 PS3 will have to make gains on the Wii, not smaller setbacks. Meaning Sony needs to focus on that Europe/Other market, which apparently still has a good Playstaion brandname there. A good 35% of the market but they need to focus on UK and France which happen to be their weakest markets, and ironically the largest individual markets in those areas.

Secondly they need to see if they can catch Nintendo why they are in a lull in Japan. They've tried with the 40gb but it hasn't really seen a mass effect yet. Nor has it really affected the Wii at all. If they don't do anything, then Nintendo having the more popular brandname, will simply come back up when it comes out of its self created lull.

But its the American market that I think we should all be seeing where PS3 needs to make the most ground. It's in 3rd place there, and really not showing any signs of coming out of it. Nor really making it a close 3rd place, like GC did with Xbox there. Sony has to makeup ground in America next year. It's 50% of the market. If they don't and suffere another 3rd place year there in 2008, then it's looking like a gloomy generation.

Although percentages are in majority favor of spelling DOOM for PS3 in 2008, that is not officially decided yet. These rises late in the year, although mostly attributed to holiday season, still have risen and could have been because of new prices and SKU's. That will be determined early next year. So I don't think we can say it'll have a tougher year, but like Sony, you need to know what PS3 needs to start doing. And that's GAIN ground in 2008, not lose ground(even if not as much). You can't say PS3 is gaining on Wii, technically til it outsells it for a week worldwide, something it hasn't done, since its launch in Europe. This is what PS3 needs to do. Some see it as a longshot. Some see it as plausible. Some see it as impossible. I simply see it as a possibility but not a strong one.



eugene you have no base for your arguments. The PS3 is on pace to outsell the 360 a third week in a row, and thats without any of its major titles being released. It is confirmed chip size will decrease, which will decrease costs and possible allow for a price cut to $299, which Sony has admitted is their ideal price point.

If Sony is currently outselling the 360 WW, is going to drop its price $100 and release bigger titles than either company has left, how is it in trouble next year?

And Sony's "few" hard hitting titles wont turn the tide? So your saying Halo 3 can boost sales up to 500,000 but FFXIII can't? Your saying GT5 wont? MGS4 wont?

Honestly, I can believe that it may be in trouble in America if all those games flop. Outside of the US the PS3 outsells the Xbox more than 2-1.

If you had posted this thread before November you might have made A LITTLE sense. But right now, unless you have more facts and less opinion your just looking like you WANT the PS3 to fail, but reality is it wont.

Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, Singstar. Its doing better than the 360 right there in the casual market.



Once again for the mentally hindered. Sony themselves have said there will be no more price cutting next year. Unless the console sees a serious upsurge in demand. Sales will not be increased through further price cuts. Sales must be increased completely based on the consoles merits. Whether you believe it can do this or not is irrelevant. Price cutting is no longer the spear head.

I think the point is clear Sony has no intention of allowing this console to become their own personal money pit. The machine has already lost them billions. They have to look at some point within the next five years to get back that money lost. They will never do that if they perpetually sell the machine at cost. The only way to make back their investment is to sell the machine at a profit, and that will happen sooner if the price of the machine remains as high as it possibly can.

The price reductions of this year were not about making the console more competitive as saving the console from a certain demise. Had they left the year having sold less then seven million units the scene would almost be hopeless. Even now it is not all that spectacular. How will the machine fare next year when disposable income has decreased, and how will it compete against the low priced alternatives.

The main point remains if you will believe anything Sony has told you especially about their lineup. Then you must believe what they have told you about pricing. You may not like the fact that Sony might not give you yet another price cut, but you do have to accept it. Personally I am not a blind fanatic, but if you are such then this must be the truth.

The Sony boosters have really gotten spoiled it seems every six months this console must go down in price a hundred dollars by their logic. Sony isn't a charity they are a business, and they are in it to make money. The price cutting was not standard practice it was desperation measures. Stop assuming that these things will chronically happen to your console.

You also better hope that Sony doesn't get desperate enough to consider it again. Another major price cut is equally appealing as ceasing production, and if thats the case Sony might err towards cutting their losses and running. Another price cut might mean never profitable, and thats not something Sony wants.



i dont think it will have a tougher time