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If that's the case, then Microsoft needs to release a new Xbox because those sales have been decreasing. Sony should have released PS4 right after PS3 was released because those sales weren't good.
For **** sake the Wii was released in 2006, it's only natural for sales to decrease. And it's not like their best Holiday season wasn't 2009 or anything.



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CitizenOfVerona said:
If that's the case, then Microsoft needs to release a new Xbox because those sales have been decreasing. Sony should have released PS4 right after PS3 was released because those sales weren't good.
For **** sake the Wii was released in 2006, it's only natural for sales to decrease. And it's not like their best Holiday season wasn't 2009 or anything.

It's michael pachter dude, he isn't meant to be taken seriously :)



I wish this would happen so I could give my Wii with its ugly games to my nephew who loves it way more than me. Than I could buy Nintendo games that are actually eye candy and not just barely acceptable.



Bamboleo said:
CitizenOfVerona said:
If that's the case, then Microsoft needs to release a new Xbox because those sales have been decreasing. Sony should have released PS4 right after PS3 was released because those sales weren't good.
For **** sake the Wii was released in 2006, it's only natural for sales to decrease. And it's not like their best Holiday season wasn't 2009 or anything.

It's michael pachter dude, he isn't meant to be taken seriously :)

I actually think Pachter is working for Nintendo, no one this gen has created as much buzz around them as he has!



Armads said:
I think he's totally wrong. It would be a mistake to release the Wii HD. It's like telling 70 million people graphics don't matter that's why you stuck with us, but now you have to upgrade your graphical capability just to play new games. It would be bad for Nintendo's image and likely would not sell as much as the wii, especially considering price.

I get tired of Nintendo fans using this kind of argument on boards. The truth is 70 million people didn't stick with Nintendo. It's true you've got hardcore Nintendo fans on boards that are willing to heap drooling praise all over anything that would put Nintendo back on top of the console heap even if it keeps truely great games from coming to the system but many core fans have gone on to 360 and PS3.

Most of that 70 million that the poster asserts stuck with Nintendo is composed of people that really don't give a darn about traditional or core games on Wii and are only interested in the system for things like Wii Fit and Jillian Michaels Fitness Coach while much better games on the system like No More Heroes, Okami, Fragile Dreams, and Muramasa or even Nintendo's own core games on the system go on to languar in a great deal of obscurity in comparison to the likes of Wii Fit, etc, which most third parties are more interested in making clones of on Wii than true hard core rpgs and the like since those things are really the only third party games that ever really go on to sell more than a couple of million units on Wii.

Also, Miyamoto himself said in an interview regarding the prospects of a Wii HD in 2008 that he thought that both graphics and keeping up with technology were important endeavors.



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Metallicube said:
Patcher's just angry that Nintendo might actually know better than him and didn't listen to his asinine advice to release a Wii HD.

Btw, that's complete bullshit that Nintendo's 3rd party support would magically improve drastically after the release of a Wii HD. Remember the Gamecube had comparable power to its competitors yet still received little 3rd party support, probably even worse than Wii currently has! Most 3rd parties don't like puting their games on Nintendo platform simply because they don't have what it takes to compete with Nintendo. The power of the hardware means very little in this case.

You can't compare Gamecube third party support to Wii, because Gamecube was in third place.  That was the reason for Gamecube getting shafted, becuase if someone was making a multiplatform game last generation, and budget was tight, the logical place to cut was a GCN port.  There were not enough people that had the system, and those that had it mostly bought it for first party games.  The Wii is a market leader, and its third party support should be compared to PS1 and PS2.  And when you do, you can see that it's pathetic.  There are multiple often well documented reasons for this, and Nintendo hate is not one of them.  The last time Nintendo had a market leading and powerful system in SNES, it got plenty of third party support.



noname2200 said:
SaviorX said:
He's really funny, he should have his own TV show.
Oh I forgot the name is already taken.


It was called Jackass.

Actually, it's called "Pach-Attack!"

wow that show is putting me to sleep.. its very un-original also lol




jarrod said:
Pachter needs to read IR more carefully. This year's software projections (for the first time afaik) don't include bundled software (so no Wii Sports or Wii Sports Resort, which will soon be the standard pack ins in America/Europe). If you consider that, Wii software should basically be flat this year if they meet projections.

I guess even professional analysts can make (basic competency) mistakes though. lol.

Yea that's what I was going to say.  It's enough to make a bold prediction, but to state things incorrectly is damnable.  Even worse, the 205 million software sold in the fiscal year before last was on more hardware, not less. 



No, Patcher, you're hurting our ears.



The Gamecube had better core third party support than the Wii has had so far. Almost every major third party multiplatform game of that gen, except for GTA, appeared on Gamecube.