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UK General Election, Election Day and Results Thread

New Labour - Gordon Brown 9 17.65%
 
Conservatives - David Cameron 15 29.41%
 
Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg 21 41.18%
 
UKIP - Lord Pearson 3 5.88%
 
Green Party - Caroline Lucas 0 0%
 
Others (National Parties,... 3 5.88%
 
Total:51

why do labour keep saying more people voted for lab/lib

in 1997/2005 didn't more people vote for con/lib i wonder if they did

if so,it didn't seem to bother them then



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lets face the facts....Brown had no choice but to resign especially after the last 3 (13) years of leadership. The only surprise I hold is that he didn't walk earlier.

It's blatantly obvious he wasn't wanted as prime minister and the polls and collapse of support clearly reflect that.



kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
jonop said:
kowenicki said:
libdems keep saying "STRONG and STABLE"

STRONG does not equal a minority government.

STABLE does not equal a government where the leader will be gone within a few months.

Joke.

David Steel, failiure of all failures, has just been on saying he prefers a lab/lib coalition.. what a self-serving dick.

It won't be a minority government. There will be other parties involved.


see my post above...

and you like that idea?

I dont know about like, but I guess its better than the Tories being in power.

if we had PR then Lib-Lab would have a majority without them, sadly, we do not.

And for the last two elections you could and probably would have had a Con/Lib situation doing the same......  like that too?

I dont like the Conservatives, so I wouldnt have liked them being in power.

however, I would have no issues with the Democratic nature of such an agreement.



zuvuyeay said:
why do labour keep saying more people voted for lab/lib

in 1997/2005 didn't more people vote for con/lib i wonder if they did

if so,it didn't seem to bother them then

im sure it bothered some.

the difference is that they won a majority in the FPTP system so no-one in the media mentioned it (nor did Labour as they won or the Tories as they love FPTP)



A coalition of four or five parties will not be stable.

In the inevitable election later this year, there will only be two choices: Conservatives, and not-the-Conservatives. People will choose the former to avoid getting the latter again.

The electorate clearly voted against a Labour government, given the swing away from them. They just weren't certain that a Conservative government was what they wanted. To get yet another Labour government, with Gordon Brown as Prime Minister for several months then yet another 'unelected' one, is not the outcome the majority of voters expected (or, I think, wanted) when they made their vote.



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kowenicki said:
zuvuyeay said:
why do labour keep saying more people voted for lab/lib

in 1997/2005 didn't more people vote for con/lib i wonder if they did

if so,it didn't seem to bother them then


You have to understand that New labour is the first government to be in power where it has a government FULL of career politicians.

Their career is politics, they will dance to whatever tune they have to to keep their jobs...  after all.. what else can they do?

one way you can start to tackle that would be fixed terms for MP's and PM's

so, they couldnt stand for more than say 3 elections. (as an example suggestion)

im not sure how you stop people from going through their career only in politics, but i am willing to listen to your ideas on the subject?



kowenicki said:
zuvuyeay said:
why do labour keep saying more people voted for lab/lib

in 1997/2005 didn't more people vote for con/lib i wonder if they did

if so,it didn't seem to bother them then


You have to understand that New labour is the first government to be in power where it has a government FULL of career politicians.

Their career is politics, they will dance to whatever tune they have to to keep their jobs...  after all.. what else can they do?


yes,obviously its all about keeping power for labour,thats politics

i can't stand the left especially when they are full of scots running englad,lol,but they are finished now whatever happens

i still can't see clegg not going with the cons,otherwise the tories should just form a minority govt,surely some opposition MP's will back the economic legislation some labour MP's are like tories anyway

its going to end up with another election anyway,and we can see what happens then



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kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
zuvuyeay said:
why do labour keep saying more people voted for lab/lib

in 1997/2005 didn't more people vote for con/lib i wonder if they did

if so,it didn't seem to bother them then


You have to understand that New labour is the first government to be in power where it has a government FULL of career politicians.

Their career is politics, they will dance to whatever tune they have to to keep their jobs...  after all.. what else can they do?

one way you can start to tackle that would be fixed terms for MP's and PM's

so, they couldnt stand for more than say 3 elections. (as an example suggestion)

im not sure how you stop people from going through their career only in politics, but i am willing to listen to your ideas on the subject?

I'm not sure you can.... but I am highly suspicious of someone who WANTS to go straight to politics from studying.   

 

its what they are interested in and want to do?

I mean, just for the sake of argument (I dont particularly have strong feelings on this issue), why shouldnt they? and what makes it suspicous?



i wonder who will battle it out for the labour leadership

and whether brown resigns from his constituency,will he want to be a back bencher



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What is "PR"?