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UK General Election, Election Day and Results Thread

New Labour - Gordon Brown 9 17.65%
 
Conservatives - David Cameron 15 29.41%
 
Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg 21 41.18%
 
UKIP - Lord Pearson 3 5.88%
 
Green Party - Caroline Lucas 0 0%
 
Others (National Parties,... 3 5.88%
 
Total:51
zuvuyeay on 07 May 2010
SciFiBoy said:
zuvuyeay said:
@sci-fi

i don't understand why you keep quoting 52% of lab/lib

why don't you quote con/lib of 59% or any other combination,why not all parties at 100%

this shows the down side of PR

the main problem for us with PR is that we have 4 countries trying to act as one,

if scotland was on their own,most of them would vote snp,same with wales they'd vote PC but as britain they vote labour

the big loser are the english,if all the countries voted individually,i think the vote would be different

england should get its own parliament now i think

I did in my first post, just didnt mention the figure.

I think we may well see more devolution now.


yes.its strange how the media/pundits/politicians are not really talking about this

and the split of the votes in each country or how unfair the system is for england,i thought there would be more talk

regardless of peoples differing political views



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zuvuyeay on 07 May 2010
SeriousWB said:
zuvuyeay said:
@sci-fi

i don't understand why you keep quoting 52% of lab/lib

why don't you quote con/lib of 59% or any other combination,why not all parties at 100%

this shows the down side of PR

the main problem for us with PR is that we have 4 countries trying to act as one,

if scotland was on their own,most of them would vote snp,same with wales they'd vote PC but as britain they vote labour

the big loser are the english,if all the countries voted individually,i think the vote would be different

england should get its own parliament now i think

The compatibility of their policies, it's simple.


well con/lib must have compataible policies too

also lab/lib don't have enough seats to govern on their own,they'd need to bring in other parties too under the current system



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SeriousWB on 07 May 2010
zuvuyeay said:
SeriousWB said:
zuvuyeay said:
@sci-fi

i don't understand why you keep quoting 52% of lab/lib

why don't you quote con/lib of 59% or any other combination,why not all parties at 100%

this shows the down side of PR

the main problem for us with PR is that we have 4 countries trying to act as one,

if scotland was on their own,most of them would vote snp,same with wales they'd vote PC but as britain they vote labour

the big loser are the english,if all the countries voted individually,i think the vote would be different

england should get its own parliament now i think

The compatibility of their policies, it's simple.


well con/lib must have compataible policies too

also lab/lib don't have enough seats to govern on their own,they'd need to bring in other parties too under the current system

Con/Lib have few compatible policies, and then have many that have a gulf between them.



zuvuyeay on 07 May 2010
SeriousWB said:
zuvuyeay said:
SeriousWB said:
zuvuyeay said:
@sci-fi

i don't understand why you keep quoting 52% of lab/lib

why don't you quote con/lib of 59% or any other combination,why not all parties at 100%

this shows the down side of PR

the main problem for us with PR is that we have 4 countries trying to act as one,

if scotland was on their own,most of them would vote snp,same with wales they'd vote PC but as britain they vote labour

the big loser are the english,if all the countries voted individually,i think the vote would be different

england should get its own parliament now i think

The compatibility of their policies, it's simple.


well con/lib must have compataible policies too

also lab/lib don't have enough seats to govern on their own,they'd need to bring in other parties too under the current system

Con/Lib have few compatible policies, and then have many that have a gulf between them.

true,

it will be interesting to see who does do deals



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highwaystar101 on 07 May 2010
NinjaguyDan said:

NinjaguyDan wins...



FootballFan on 07 May 2010
highwaystar101 said:
NinjaguyDan said:

NinjaguyDan wins...


Personally I would say that the vote would be split with the Conservatives



Kasz216 on 07 May 2010
kowenicki said:

full scale devolution please.... England has spoken.

Full England Scoreboard

Party  Seats     Gain     Loss     Net   Votes%  +/-%
Conservative 297 95 3 +92 9,911,062 39.6 +3.9
Labour 191 2 89 -87 7,037,229 28.1 -7.4
Liberal Democrat 43 8 12 -4 6,067,303 24.2 +1.3
Green 1 1 0 +1 258,954 1.0 -0.1
UK Independence Party 0 0 0 0 864,919 3.5 +0.9
British National Party 0 0 0 0 531,745 2.1 +1.3
English Democrats 0 0 0 0 64,826 0.3 +0.2
Respect-Unity Coalition 0 0 1 -1 33,251 0.1 -0.2
Independent Community and Health Concern 0 0 1 -1 16,150 0.1 +0.0
Christian Party 0 0 0 0 15,841 0.1  
Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition 0 0 0 0 8,404 0.0  
Others 0 0 0 0 237,671 0.9 0.0
Turnout   25,047,355      65.5  4.6

Just so i've got this right... devolution would be the creation of an English Parliment to handle English issues?



zuvuyeay on 08 May 2010

yes i'd liked to see full devolution,no more uk

whats the point in having so many different parliaments for such a little country,you are either in or out

england is run by everyone except england

turnout 29,653,638 votes

england 25,047,355
scotland 2,465,722
wales 1,466,690
NI 673,871

whats the point in england being dictated to by other countries,i can't understand how the english have let this happen,we should call the shots,

can you imagine the french or germans letting this happen



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FootballFan on 08 May 2010
kowenicki said:
I am getting rather annoyed with the lib-dems...

It is patently obvious that they arent now working in the best interests of the country at all.

The ONLY thing they want guaranteed is political reform, thats about the best interests of the Lib-Dems and not the people of this country. Whats happened to all their principles on "fairness" in the economy and the massive change in immigration and defence.. you know real issues that affect people every day.... all of these can apparently be sacrifised apparentrly so long as tyhey get political rfeform. Weak, spineless self serving politicians... as per usual.

Labnour are even worse... they are saying they will agree to everything and anything to hang in there. sickening.

If we end up with a coalition of losers then I, and I think the vocal majority, will be mighty pissed off. I'd expect Nick Clegg to get an absolute mauling in the press if he sells his soul and integrity for a slice of power... a slice of power that wont last 6 months in my opinion. A lib/lab agreement is built on sand and would evaporate very very quickly.

Gordon Brown hasnt won anything ever... he didn't win an election of even his peers to become party leader, he didn't win an election to become prime minister and now he has lost another election as leader... and he has the chance to stay as Prime Minsiter.... and this is democratic is it? Do me a favour... it stinks!!!!


I think that the party (regardless of who comes first) should be elected to govern. It is clear in this case that the Conservatives (seats and percentage of the vote) are by far the favoured party and it is a joke that they need the third and unpopular Lib Dems in order to form government. I hope that the Conservatives can agree with DUP and "other" parties in order to pass the 326 mark but I don't think it is possible. Also how democratic is it that Gordon Brown is Prime minister prior to the elections when nobody boted for him, the British people wanted Blair and they ended up with Brown...

It will end up being a CON-LIB coalition and when/if there is electoral reform, Nicky Clegg will be the first to complain when the BNP will get 15~ seats and his party still don't beat Labour or the Conservatives.