Iron Man 2 was incredible!

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stof on 05 May 2010

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stof said:

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It got bogged down in trying to set up the Avengers, the whole "element" story was like a ridiculous Disney children's movie, The main villian was barely used and the whole thing was just not so great.

That said, I was entertained. I figure as long as you don't expect it to be nearly as good as the first one, you'll be entertained.

Can you explain how exactly the first Iron Man was better? I'll be the first to admit the sequel has more flaws, but the good far outwieghs the bad. I don't think I've ever so strongly disagreed with the majority on any movie!

The first one had a story. I'd say that's the big one. It also built up a villian, instead of starting off with a villian and then ignoring him for 2 thirds of the movie. The first one didn't have scenes that added absolutely nothing to the film itself because they were instead made to try and launch the Avengers series. The first one didn't say "look, we have a hot girl who beats people up" which I know some people like... but it hardly helps the movie.

The first one didn't have "you've created a new element"

The second movie is entertaining because it coasts on the first one.

1. And Iron Man 1 did?
2. An underused villian is better than a lame one.
3. Agree. That's the only real criticism I have.
4. You're really reaching there.
5. No, but a guy did build a flying robot suit in a cave in the middle east. You have to suspend your disbelief with these movies.

1. Yes, Iron Man had the story of how a Man becomes Iron Man. It wasn't a magnificent story, but it never once caused my eyes to roll

2. I liked how they made the villian in the first movie. I liked the villian in the second movie too, except he spent most of the movie in a lab and it wasn't very entertaining. His final scene blew too. It was just sort of "And here I am" followed by "And now I'm dead". The racing scene was probably the only really entertaining action scene

3.yeah...

4.No I'm not; shio agrees with me. Why was Johansen in this movie? More Avengers set up? Breasts? It sure wasn't for anything that had to do with telling a good story or entertaining me.

5. Of course I can suspend my disbelief. But there's a difference between suspension of disbelief of technology, which we do all the time in these sorts of movies, and suspension of disbelief of logic and arbitrary character motivations.

When a genius in a cave uses his existing technology and knowledge to make fantastic technology to save his life, we say "yeah ok". When a man designs a new element, but decides that instead of telling someone about it, he'll hold a big expo and set the buildings in the pattern of the element in the hopes that one day his son may look at the old expo model and have a computer tell him, this is a new element, it will also power your suit and not kill you. And then he sets up a quick "element building machine" in about one minutes worth of scenes (with more obligotory Avengers hawking). I personally have a much harder time suspending my disbelief.

Notice that I had no problem suspending my disbelief for the crazy russian making the whiplash suit in his dingy apartment.

Again, I did say I was entertained. I just thought I was entertained by a bad movie.

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Smeags on 05 May 2010

So from what I'm hearing is that we have another disappointing villain character. I really can't think of an Iron Man bad guy that's actually worth noting. Fing Fang Foom?

It's a good thing that the actual character of Tony Stark is so interesting (and that Robert Downey Jr. does a fantastic job with it), because everything else in the Iron Man universe is just so bland. He really shines as an Avenger though.

Oh, and I've heard that there's a hint at the Thor movie at the end of the credits...

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9009pc on 05 May 2010

stof said:

--OkeyDokey-- said:

stof said:

--OkeyDokey-- said:

stof said:
It got bogged down in trying to set up the Avengers, the whole "element" story was like a ridiculous Disney children's movie, The main villian was barely used and the whole thing was just not so great.

That said, I was entertained. I figure as long as you don't expect it to be nearly as good as the first one, you'll be entertained.

Can you explain how exactly the first Iron Man was better? I'll be the first to admit the sequel has more flaws, but the good far outwieghs the bad. I don't think I've ever so strongly disagreed with the majority on any movie!

The first one had a story. I'd say that's the big one. It also built up a villian, instead of starting off with a villian and then ignoring him for 2 thirds of the movie. The first one didn't have scenes that added absolutely nothing to the film itself because they were instead made to try and launch the Avengers series. The first one didn't say "look, we have a hot girl who beats people up" which I know some people like... but it hardly helps the movie.

The first one didn't have "you've created a new element"

The second movie is entertaining because it coasts on the first one.

1. And Iron Man 1 did?
2. An underused villian is better than a lame one.
3. Agree. That's the only real criticism I have.
4. You're really reaching there.
5. No, but a guy did build a flying robot suit in a cave in the middle east. You have to suspend your disbelief with these movies.

And then he sets up a quick "element building machine" in about one minutes worth of scenes (with more obligotory Avengers hawking). I personally have a much harder time suspending my disbelief.

element building machine is called a particle collider, and although you can create atoms with one there is know way to determine what you create. as for the size of it he must have some very small but incredible powerfully magnets, to propel the atoms at that speed. the circuit isn't complete either which means if he produced anti-matter, it would react with ordinary matter causing a explosion that could potential be the size of north America depending on how much he produces.

an article on the large hadron collider by the bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8593780.stm

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andremop on 05 May 2010

I thought it sucked. It's a good comedy, though - the same way transformers (ugh) was more a comedy than an action film!

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C'mon... those robots in the end reminded me of those useless power rangers doll enemies invading angel's grove - served no purpose other than waiting for the big bad guy of the week to appear LOL!