Words Of Wisdom said:
Scruff7 said:
The fact that Nintendo failed to give any information is not an excuse.
more, we have to ask the question: "what have they got to hide about it's products and manufacturing techniques, that they wouldn't want to tell Green Peace?"
i would suggest that for a product such as the DS or Wii to be developed and sold at a profit points to some not entirely environmentally friendly manufacturing techniques...
Sorry to debunk the argument on power consumption - the Wii may have the lowest power consumption of all the next gen consules, but it's also sold far in excess of the other consoles, which means Nintendo products are collectively draining more energy than their counterparts (however, this is not a factor examined by the report).
Sony have been stung before in the past and have since cleaned up their act considerably.
MS have never cared about the environment, and so probably never will, what do they care? the operating system that was used to compile that report was probably Windows anyway!
Green Peace are a major international non-government organisation, one of the largest in the world. that means they are supported by public donations and subscriptions, and not by governments. that does not mean that they do not work with governments, because they do, they do work closely with UN organisations, but do not have to abide by their decisions and can lobby governments effectively.
The fact that they are so large shows that they have large scale public support, this report has already gone world wide, and has been reported on major news websites throughout the world. to dismiss Green Peace as a small, unemportant activist group is a falicy. |
Oh yeah.
Top Secret: Greenpeace Report Misleading and Incompetent |
a blog post from someone attempting to defend apple's failure to meet it's own standards of green electronics is not proof of incompetence of an NGO or it's report - that's called cherry picking. it is simply one persons outspoken opinion and his perception of events. Greenpeace has been around for over 3 decades and is still going strong, they have made mistakes in the past, but for the good they have done far outweighs their failures.
lets not blow this out of proportion. Greenpeace praises some companies for having excellent policies on the use of toxic materials and their dedication to recyling, while lambasting other for failing to implement robust policies or (in the case of Nintendo) failing to implement any policies on the use of toxic materials or recycling of products.
Nintendo does not have environmentally sound policies, this is what the report has said. if they don't have the policies, there is little chance they will be acting in an environmentally sound manner.
it is exactly because Greenpeace are a well known and respected organisation that this report has gathered so much media spotlight. of course its going to put the backs up a few people, it holds organisations accountable for not being environmentally friendly at a time when it's very central to peoples desires. these companies will avoid the report and dismiss it as hearsay and misrepresentation.
on the other side of the coin you can be sure that the top named companies will blow their own trumpet about this, exactly like Steve Jobs did.
I am quite sure that if this report had show Sony to be acting in an environmentally unfriendly way with Nintendo near the top of the list, the Nintendo fans would love to air about it.
the question you have to ask yourself is: if all these other companies are making an effort to demonstrate how they are committed to the environment through their policies, why doesn't Nintendo?
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