dud wht is ur problem, i sed its a massive succes in west. bt in jpn its nt dun as expctd.

@deskpro

no tht luks horrible.

hopefully ff versus will bring back a little bit of faith i hope

What I was going for is that formats change over time, and formats get stale.  Even if a genre is a genre, it will evolve over time.  Platformers go the way of Super Mario Galaxy, or Ratchet and Clank.  Tomb Raider games add more in the way of what Uncharted did.  Genres evolve over time.  I am just wondering why people expect just adding more production value to a genre is supposed to make it sell more, particularly on a console that doesn't have a lot of JRPGs to begin with.

One can bring up JRPGs selling on handhelds real well, but besides handhelds having a much larger user base, what NEW JRPGs have actually sold a lot?

And, I will also add, it isn't a matter of just being different for its own sake.  What matters is that you are able to both remain true to a genre, but also advance it.  Please note the trend here.  Even before FFXIII, the sales have been downward for the franchise itself.  And I don't see JRPGs even being that huge saleswise period.  ONLY reason to say "Western RPGs" is they are more new as a genre on consoles at this point, and have shown a good amount of sales.  I am not saying it is because they are "western" but have happened to appeal to a wider audience who are into other genres.

I would also say we are likely to witness the fusing of RPG with other genres the way adventure titles of the past had fused with action.  Games like Modern Warfare/Call of Duty add RPG-like elements to them.  Even a game like Borderlands goes hybrid, and benefits from the sales.

F U

It's a massive success everywhere, why is that so hard to figure out? Yes, it's not selling like previous version, but that's because it's on 2nd place console which had 4.5 million users. The game will end up selling over 2million in Japan, that's beyond what I expected from a game everyone hate in japan, right?

Lol! It's very nice! You really saved a crappy cover! Good job!

Umm... so apparently FFVIII having the largest week one sales of any game in Japan (at least I'm pretty sure it is)... means FFVII was a failure?  FFVII was very anticipated too though, it sold almost as many copies as FFVI sold overall in one week (it passed it by the third week), which means the anticipation of FFVII was greater than the overall interest in FFVI... which is more a result of hype than the success of FFVI (although success of FFVI did play a huge role too, don't get me wrong).  Basically what I am saying is that FFVIII wasn't as good as FFVII, so word of mouth led to fewer sales.

dude if it sold like the ps1/2 ff's in jpn it wud hve sold as much as ff8/10 worldwide (because its doing as gud as the others in west). so i identified wher it underperformed, thts japan. but then the solution according to u is to put ff15 on the 1st place console?

@deskpro

lightning luks ugly in tht picture. u shud put vanille on the front cover.

I wasn't forgetting about anything... like I said, of the thousands of games sold in Japan throughout the years, very few are capable of selling 3 million, and especially 4 million.  Just because Dragon Quest, Pokemon, and Mario sell well, it doesn't mean every game has to sell as well as them to be successful, even Final Fantasy doesn't have to be barred down by those expectations... although it is a competitor among them.

Anyway, you already know all of this, you probably just misinterpretted what I was saying; no harm done :P

You have  to word it better than dude, your disapointment in the game because it did not sell to 75% of the PS3 USERS in the first 6 months has nothing to do with the game being a flop. It sold beyond most expectations and in my world that's called a success.