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JaggedSac on 29 April 2010
hobbit said:

Troll got his facts can we get back on topic now? What kind of IP does one sign a 10 yr deal for? Some sort of role playing game that could turn into an MMO? Another big universe IP that could have multiple spin offs? Im really shocked that the deal is so long and only pertains to the  one IP.

Yes it is curious.  It is either something they think will be a huge franchise ie Halo, or something that will need support for 10 years if successful, ie an MMO.  Either way, Activision is banking heavily on Bungie's IP to be a BIG success.



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hobbit on 29 April 2010
Monteblanco said:
As Bungie seems to be over with FPS for the moment, I would like to see them developing a new game similar to their Myth: The Fallen Lords. They don't have the IP anymore, but it shouldn't be hard to re-acquire it nowadays.


i believe they said take 2 has the ip rights, but like you said they could have sold it off for next to nothing considering their lack of interest in making new games, and we wouldn't know about it because if would have no effect on take 2's balance sheet.



PearlJam on 29 April 2010

I'm really just wondering what this game will be. Does Bungie still own Marathon? I wouldn't mind them making a new Marathon game. They could put all their Halo skills to good use, while not being trapped in that universe.

Maybe they weren't tired of FPS, but they just wanted a break from Halo.



hobbit on 29 April 2010
JaggedSac said:
hobbit said:

Troll got his facts can we get back on topic now? What kind of IP does one sign a 10 yr deal for? Some sort of role playing game that could turn into an MMO? Another big universe IP that could have multiple spin offs? Im really shocked that the deal is so long and only pertains to the  one IP.

Yes it is curious.  It is either something they think will be a huge franchise ie Halo, or something that will need support for 10 years if successful, ie an MMO.  Either way, Activision is banking heavily on Bungie's IP to be a BIG success.

Well we don't know the terms of the deal but it does seem that activision is banking on its sucess, which makes the "rights of refusal"
thing interesting.



twesterm on 29 April 2010

I love announcements like these because it really shows the hypocrisy of some people.

Yesterday, if you asked a PS3 fan of Halo and Bungie it was they make the same game over and over again and that game sucks.

Today, if you ask that same person about Bungie and Halo, they'll say Halo is a decent game but OMG BUNGIE ROCKS!  MS IS DOOMED!

All in all though, complete surprise announcement. I assume Activision originally wanted to save this for E3 but since they have had so much bad PR lately they decided they needed something big to divert attention away from the Infinity Ward fiasco. Still, good for Bungie and hopefully good for gamers.



 

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twesterm on 29 April 2010
hobbit said:
JaggedSac said:
hobbit said:

Troll got his facts can we get back on topic now? What kind of IP does one sign a 10 yr deal for? Some sort of role playing game that could turn into an MMO? Another big universe IP that could have multiple spin offs? Im really shocked that the deal is so long and only pertains to the  one IP.

Yes it is curious.  It is either something they think will be a huge franchise ie Halo, or something that will need support for 10 years if successful, ie an MMO.  Either way, Activision is banking heavily on Bungie's IP to be a BIG success.

Well we don't know the terms of the deal but it does seem that activision is banking on its sucess, which makes the "rights of refusal"
thing interesting.

It won't be an MMO or RPG, it's going to be some sort of shooter franchise that will probably have 3-4 games by the time the deal is up.



 

hobbit on 29 April 2010
twesterm said:

I love announcements like these because it really shows the hypocrisy of some people.

Yesterday, if you asked a PS3 fan of Halo and Bungie it was they make the same game over and over again and that game sucks.

Today, if you ask that same person about Bungie and Halo, they'll say Halo is a decent game but OMG BUNGIE ROCKS!  MS IS DOOMED!

All in all though, complete surprise announcement. I assume Activision originally wanted to save this for E3 but since they have had so much bad PR lately they decided they needed something big to divert attention away from the Infinity Ward fiasco. Still, good for Bungie and hopefully good for gamers.

Maybe it was impactful on their quarter and they had to announce the deal.  Either way their next call is on May 6th we're likely to find out more about it if it did have an impact.



twesterm on 29 April 2010
hobbit said:
twesterm said:

I love announcements like these because it really shows the hypocrisy of some people.

Yesterday, if you asked a PS3 fan of Halo and Bungie it was they make the same game over and over again and that game sucks.

Today, if you ask that same person about Bungie and Halo, they'll say Halo is a decent game but OMG BUNGIE ROCKS!  MS IS DOOMED!

All in all though, complete surprise announcement. I assume Activision originally wanted to save this for E3 but since they have had so much bad PR lately they decided they needed something big to divert attention away from the Infinity Ward fiasco. Still, good for Bungie and hopefully good for gamers.

Maybe it was impactful on their quarter and they had to announce the deal.  Either way their next call is on May 6th we're likely to find out more about it if it did have an impact.

That could be it, but what I said just seems much more likely.

This very much smells of Activision saying hey, hey!  Look over here!! while they quietly sweep the IW under rug hoping people just forget about it.



 

hudsoniscool on 29 April 2010

well when activision burns bungie into the ground i expect a lot of bungie guys to go to 343.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

Xero on 29 April 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
Xero said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Brennan said:
JaggedSac said:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=244775

MS Response:

"Our partnership with Bungie as a first-party developer for Xbox 360 remains unchanged, and right now we're deeply engaged with them on the development of Halo Reach, which is poised to be the biggest game of 2010."

Translation : "It hurts. May you all Bungie scumbags die in hell. But please make Halo Reach another AAA game first before going PS3 / 360."

Priceless. So looks like MS doesn't know the definition of a 1st party dev either. Or they lie again.

Their PR talks look more and more like Iraqi Information Minister stuff recently, between that and "FF13 will sell more on 360" (that one was hilarious, they were outsold like 3 or 4:1). Next PR : "There are no tanks in Bagdad, we're winning the war" ?

Here is a reminder MS :

"In the video game industry, a first-party developer is a developer that is part of a company that actually manufactures a video game console."

List of 1st party devs, strangely Bungie is not on it :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:First-party_video_game_developers

Bad journalism or another MS lie ?

 


There was a nice discussion in this thread aboput bungie, halo, future projects etc etc.... but then Brennan came in to ruin the fun.

You said MS shopuld buy / build 1st party studios... Do you really think this way? You prefer Sony consoles, someone might even call you a fanboy, but I won't go this way. Imagine MS really goes out and buys studios They could buy Remedy, Epic, Mistwalker, Valhalla Games, Valve, Bioware and Capcom with the money they earned this month... Do you really want this? Please be honest.

MS has a lot of talented studios and probably a lot of games in the pipeline we haven't even heard of yet. Lionhead, Rare, Turn10, 343 Industries and Firebird Studios all have at least one game in development we don't know anything about yet.

And they have awesome 3rd party support. Actually the best  for any  console. Remedy, Epic, Mistwalker say Hi.

We knew that Bungie would go multiplat since 2007. The one thing that makes me wonder is why they picked Activision. I hope Activision does not ruin Bungies games in any way.

Lol you really think there'd be any viability in purchasing big publishers like Capcom or Valve? These are god awful examples. I'd be happy to see them buy Mistwalker, Epic (doubt Epic would go for it since they have other obligations). Remedy isn't viable either, 1 game every 5 years is not good enough for the nature of the games they produce and Bioware is a subsidiary of EA... So Mistwalker and Valhalla games... sure why not. 

They need to be looking at snapping up new and upcomming developers rather than pre-existing and heavily established. 

You

[  ] did understand my post

[x] did not understand my post

I never said they should buy these studios, I said they could if they wanted to.
Heck, MS offered 43 billion USD for Yahoo. They can buy any developer they want. Financially there is no limit. That's what I was talking about.

Another thing that needs to be mentioned: The customer does not care about 1st or 3rd party exclusives. All they see is "exclusive". That is enough. 3rd party exclusives like Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction (and hopefully soon Alan Wake) did very well and they are exclusive. That is what counts. Nobody cared if they were made by 1st or 3rd party studios.

I did, I just said they were bad examples. What's the point in saying they 'could' buy them? Obviously people suggesting they buy studios were suggesting they buy studios, appropriately. Not publishers. Sure they COULD buy big publishers if they wanted to, but they'd no longer be making a profit on the 360.

Third party exclusives don't hold true, as shown by tonnes of previous titles. I'll be amazed if SC:C and ME stay exclusive. I also don't think timed exclusives add much to system sales, and since this is not a PS3 vs 360 argument, L4D, GoW, ME and SCC are not exclusive. 

Personally, I just see first party studios as an investment in the future for the system.