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Dodece said:
Oh my god Microsoft isn't spreading it thick. Wait are we actually complaining about a company not spreading lies, manipulations, and making exaggerated claims. A company not trying to spin numbers in some obtuse way to make themselves look better. Gasp how dare they let themselves be judged on product quality and nothing else.

You know some companies do not actually behave like Sony. They do not send forth their executives to lie to consumers, and brag about non existent features. Some companies actually say what they intend to do, and stick with it. So obviously with no more big announcements for the year. The products, pricing, and support having already been delivered for the holiday season what exactly shout they be doing?

I think some posters need to recognize a few things. First is that the 360 actually topped the PS3 in Europe for six weeks straight this year. Sony has no dominance and ten thousand for a few weeks in the holiday season isn't going to get them very far. After the holidays if the ratio remains the same the difference could end up being as little as a couple thousand.

That brings up the second point Sony isn't very likely to offer another price cut next year. Sony admitted to as much themselves. Seriously anyone expected one is just about as naive as one can get. Sony does need to generate profits that exceed their losses. They have lost Billions of dollars on the PS3. The price cutting of this year was pure desperation, and not strategic in the least. Further more it increased their projected losses many fold. The result is this Sony is in no shape to cut prices again next year. There is no magical price cutting fairy which some posters seem to think exists.

Honestly Sony was pushed into a corner not merely by Microsoft, but by Nintendo as well. They didn't want to do any price cuts this year. Instead they were forced to slash their prices by upwards of a third in some markets. They then included bundles with their most highly praised games. Finally they have been forced to fund expensive media campaigns, and it is suspected that they have had to pony up seriously for exclusive content.

Compare that to Nintendo with a fifteen dollar pack in game, and a profitable console with no price cuts. Compare that to Microsoft which bundled games that had spent their prime. Who also only cut their prices by a measly thirteen percent. Further more their production was a what eighteen months in at the time. The reality becomes clear price reductions are far more likely and possible for the competitors. Economically they are in a far better position to do so, and strategically during the cold year between holiday seasons would be far more effective.

Finally I am getting quite tired of this killer PS3 lineup I have heard so much about. I have compared the release lists, and honestly the competitors offerings are up to par. Even so Microsoft and Nintendo haven't even shown all of their offerings for next year, or have necessarily negotiated all of their exclusive content. Meanwhile Sony has displayed most everything they have coming.

Too much living high on the hog in this thread, and the fact that Sony is just keeping pace with the 360 globally is actually a very poor sign. They need to be performing much better. Next year price will become a major factor once more, and thanks to all of this years delays the market will be glutted through the first half of next year. The lineup for next year isn't doing Sony any favors. Making for a much harder sell to consumers.

Best post in this thread. Well done dodece!



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azzer100 said:
Dodece said:
Oh my god Microsoft isn't spreading it thick. Wait are we actually complaining about a company not spreading lies, manipulations, and making exaggerated claims. A company not trying to spin numbers in some obtuse way to make themselves look better. Gasp how dare they let themselves be judged on product quality and nothing else.

You know some companies do not actually behave like Sony. They do not send forth their executives to lie to consumers, and brag about non existent features. Some companies actually say what they intend to do, and stick with it. So obviously with no more big announcements for the year. The products, pricing, and support having already been delivered for the holiday season what exactly shout they be doing?

I think some posters need to recognize a few things. First is that the 360 actually topped the PS3 in Europe for six weeks straight this year. Sony has no dominance and ten thousand for a few weeks in the holiday season isn't going to get them very far. After the holidays if the ratio remains the same the difference could end up being as little as a couple thousand.

That brings up the second point Sony isn't very likely to offer another price cut next year. Sony admitted to as much themselves. Seriously anyone expected one is just about as naive as one can get. Sony does need to generate profits that exceed their losses. They have lost Billions of dollars on the PS3. The price cutting of this year was pure desperation, and not strategic in the least. Further more it increased their projected losses many fold. The result is this Sony is in no shape to cut prices again next year. There is no magical price cutting fairy which some posters seem to think exists.

Honestly Sony was pushed into a corner not merely by Microsoft, but by Nintendo as well. They didn't want to do any price cuts this year. Instead they were forced to slash their prices by upwards of a third in some markets. They then included bundles with their most highly praised games. Finally they have been forced to fund expensive media campaigns, and it is suspected that they have had to pony up seriously for exclusive content.

Compare that to Nintendo with a fifteen dollar pack in game, and a profitable console with no price cuts. Compare that to Microsoft which bundled games that had spent their prime. Who also only cut their prices by a measly thirteen percent. Further more their production was a what eighteen months in at the time. The reality becomes clear price reductions are far more likely and possible for the competitors. Economically they are in a far better position to do so, and strategically during the cold year between holiday seasons would be far more effective.

Finally I am getting quite tired of this killer PS3 lineup I have heard so much about. I have compared the release lists, and honestly the competitors offerings are up to par. Even so Microsoft and Nintendo haven't even shown all of their offerings for next year, or have necessarily negotiated all of their exclusive content. Meanwhile Sony has displayed most everything they have coming.

Too much living high on the hog in this thread, and the fact that Sony is just keeping pace with the 360 globally is actually a very poor sign. They need to be performing much better. Next year price will become a major factor once more, and thanks to all of this years delays the market will be glutted through the first half of next year. The lineup for next year isn't doing Sony any favors. Making for a much harder sell to consumers.

Best post in this thread. Well done dodece!


Best post because he/she typed 600 words and used paragraphs?



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Dodece said:
Oh my god Microsoft isn't spreading it thick. Wait are we actually complaining about a company not spreading lies, manipulations, and making exaggerated claims. A company not trying to spin numbers in some obtuse way to make themselves look better. Gasp how dare they let themselves be judged on product quality and nothing else.

You know some companies do not actually behave like Sony. They do not send forth their executives to lie to consumers, and brag about non existent features. Some companies actually say what they intend to do, and stick with it. So obviously with no more big announcements for the year. The products, pricing, and support having already been delivered for the holiday season what exactly shout they be doing?

I think some posters need to recognize a few things. First is that the 360 actually topped the PS3 in Europe for six weeks straight this year. Sony has no dominance and ten thousand for a few weeks in the holiday season isn't going to get them very far. After the holidays if the ratio remains the same the difference could end up being as little as a couple thousand.

That brings up the second point Sony isn't very likely to offer another price cut next year. Sony admitted to as much themselves. Seriously anyone expected one is just about as naive as one can get. Sony does need to generate profits that exceed their losses. They have lost Billions of dollars on the PS3. The price cutting of this year was pure desperation, and not strategic in the least. Further more it increased their projected losses many fold. The result is this Sony is in no shape to cut prices again next year. There is no magical price cutting fairy which some posters seem to think exists.

Honestly Sony was pushed into a corner not merely by Microsoft, but by Nintendo as well. They didn't want to do any price cuts this year. Instead they were forced to slash their prices by upwards of a third in some markets. They then included bundles with their most highly praised games. Finally they have been forced to fund expensive media campaigns, and it is suspected that they have had to pony up seriously for exclusive content.

Compare that to Nintendo with a fifteen dollar pack in game, and a profitable console with no price cuts. Compare that to Microsoft which bundled games that had spent their prime. Who also only cut their prices by a measly thirteen percent. Further more their production was a what eighteen months in at the time. The reality becomes clear price reductions are far more likely and possible for the competitors. Economically they are in a far better position to do so, and strategically during the cold year between holiday seasons would be far more effective.

Finally I am getting quite tired of this killer PS3 lineup I have heard so much about. I have compared the release lists, and honestly the competitors offerings are up to par. Even so Microsoft and Nintendo haven't even shown all of their offerings for next year, or have necessarily negotiated all of their exclusive content. Meanwhile Sony has displayed most everything they have coming.

Too much living high on the hog in this thread, and the fact that Sony is just keeping pace with the 360 globally is actually a very poor sign. They need to be performing much better. Next year price will become a major factor once more, and thanks to all of this years delays the market will be glutted through the first half of next year. The lineup for next year isn't doing Sony any favors. Making for a much harder sell to consumers.

There is no "killer lineup" for the PS3 at the moment. Care to explain why the 360 can't sell more than the PS3 WW right now? No one can. No one has a decent explanation why the PS3 is outselling the 360.

There are no games for the PS3, right? So why does it outsell the 360? Brand Name?



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They are trying to meet the demand for the 360 especially the elite. No time to release silly press releases when they know the numbers will do the talking when they are released. You don't see nintendo saying anything but I guess they are always the exception to the rule. Basically Nintendo and MS don't need to cry out for attention as they let theur hardware and software speak for themselves.



Its not the price and it's not the games. What is it?



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Peter Potamus said:
 

There is no "killer lineup" for the PS3 at the moment. Care to explain why the 360 can't sell more than the PS3 WW right now? No one can. No one has a decent explanation why the PS3 is outselling the 360.

There are no games for the PS3, right? So why does it outsell the 360? Brand Name?


Brand name is a part of it. Japan, price cuts, new models, new colors, DW6's release, slight advantage in Europe (due to brand name), and people buying it for Blu-Ray are probably the other parts.

It doesn't take a genius to look at what's happening to each console each week.

 



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elnino334 said:
They are trying to meet the demand for the 360 especially the elite. No time to release silly press releases when they know the numbers will do the talking when they are released. You don't see nintendo saying anything but I guess they are always the exception to the rule. Basically Nintendo and MS don't need to cry out for attention as they let theur hardware and software speak for themselves.

Don't mention the 360 with the Wii. Both the Wii and DS are on different planets right now.

For the past two weeks, the PS3 (you know, the console that's expensive AND it has no games) has outsold the 360. Period. And it seems that people can't explain it. 



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@Peter Potamus

Please explain why exactly do you think price cuts and the recent SKU not propelling the sales surge.



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With good graphics,but NOT ONLY THAT!!!
Like the Wii do current gen...
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