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naznatips on 27 November 2007
Desroko said:
Naz, I am a Christian. Please, read the thread. When you're done, please point out the post where I made a genealization.

Sorry, I get on edge when people attack Christianity as if everyone in it believes the same thing and I misinterpreted your intentions.  That's completely my mistake.

Avinash on the other hand...

Christians are people too and have varrying beliefs and opinions just like everyone else.  When people say all Christians hate gays it's no better than making generalizations about black people, Jewish people, or gay people.  For some reason some people seem to think bigotry only works one way and because they are on one side of the fence they can say anything about the other.



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stof on 27 November 2007
tk1797 said:
I don't understand what did ripper say that was so bad stof. Sure I had a problem with a post but I don't think he bashed anyone.

This isn't the first time ripper was in a thread about homosexuality. That one ended with him being reported several times and removed from the thread. And in my opinion, he was there again this time. I stand by my actions.

 



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

damkira on 27 November 2007
naznatips said:
Desroko said:
naznatips said:
Desroko said:
ripper said:
@tk1797 I think if you read all my posts what i was trying to get at is that many people find it fashionable to Christian bash... They have every right to their opion! But Islam is much more forceful in their doctrine on homosexuality... why did he not bash them? or any of the other religions i mentioned??? lack of courage? lack of reading? did he assume I am a Christian and wanted to bash me as an individual? or does he harbor a grudge against Christians?

Leviticus 20:13 defines homosexuality as a capital crime. Pretty forceful, if you ask me.


Not all Christians take the bible for every word in it without question.


Read the thread, Naz.

And the rest of your post is completely wrong. My experience is that gays are just as varied in their behavior and personalities as anyone else, and the behavior that you describe as "stupid stereotypes" is natural for some people. No one should be attacked for being who they are.


Please Desroko. You are just as intolerant of Christians as you claim them to be of gays. Just because you don't believe in anything doesn't give you the right to go on a holy crusade of your own against the beliefs of others. Nor does it give you the right to make generalizations about the entire group of people.


 When did Desroko bash Christians or even claim to be an Atheist? You really can't win an argument by putting words in other peoples' mouths.



Rath on 27 November 2007
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Desroko said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Desroko said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Desroko said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Umm, i'm Hindu, not all Hindu sects or all Buddhist sects care if you're gay or not, so no its not all religions, don't lump us all in with you bigoted Abrahamics

Now ripper, here's an actual case of a stupid statement lumping all Christians, Muslims, and Jews together.


I've read the bible pally, i've seen the passages that condemn homosexuality, even calling for them to be put to death, so no i'm not stupidly lumping you guys, its right there in your "holy" books


Of course, since I already mentioned one. And not all members of these religions takes these texts literally. As you know, not all Hindus take the Vedas literaly either.

So yes, you are stupidly lumping people together. Please, stop.


Oh please there are more than just leviticus (the one mentioned earlier), in Romans, Deuteronomy, Genesis, Timothy etc. there are passages on the condemnation of homosexuals, even referring to them as abominations, please I don't need to read your post to know the passages.

And saying its not a literal interpretation is a major copout, either you accept it as part of your religions or you accept that its just a story and not an actual holy text.


So you accept that Christias, Muslims, and Jews have different opinions of their texts, and that your generalization was unfair. Personally I do not believe that man cannot create anything perfect, and that only God is holy, so no, I don't take the Bible literaly. Thus, I resent your implication that I condemn gays just like any fundamentalist.


Well your god doesn't exist outside of the bible so you are admitting that your god is fiction

Also your religion condemns gays, you follow that religions and therefore you give your approval of that, just like someone who follows Nazism gives their approval of what Hitler did. So by saying that you don't follow it literally doen't fly, you have given your approval of the religion and its views


 Well I'm an athiest and now your annoying me for your lack of tolerance of Christians.

No Christian claims the bible was written by God, merely inspired by God. Thus the quotes in the bibles with things such as the homophobic sentiment reflect the feelings of man at the time, not God.



sinha on 27 November 2007

This thread has definitely outlived its usefulness.



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

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ripper on 27 November 2007

i can disagree with people with reporting them like a little baby. its a debat people! you are supposed to talk it out.

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stof on 27 November 2007

You're right sinha. We can all agree that there are idiots in the world, and some of those idiots play xbox live.

I think we can close this thread with that.



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

Desroko on 27 November 2007
sinha said:
This thread has definitely outlived its usefulness.

What was it about?

Oh, Halo, right. Fun game.

Edit: And with the second Godwin's Law sighting, ripper and Avinash are once again even.



LeeAdama on 27 November 2007

Alright (sigh.) Time for me to speak up as the resident token gay gamer. I feel like Tiger Woods at Augusta National.

1) Guys, I appreciate the support. But to be perfectly honest, ripper ain't much of a threat. I fear him about as much as I fear Boos while playing Super Mario Galaxy. That is to say, they mess with you up to the point that you turn around and glare at them, and then they scurry away. Actually, I'm being mean. What I'm trying to say is perhaps all the energy spent defending gay people (which I appreciate) might be better spent elsewhere, because frankly... you're fighting Glass Joe here, boys and girls. (We loves ya, ripper!!!)

2) GayBoy kinda had it coming. What I mean to say is, I work out in my local gym 2x daily. When I'm in the locker room, I don't prance around in rainbow jockey shorts. He specifically was looking for a response, and he got one. That isn't to say that anyone should or shouldn't have the right to express themselves any way they want. Fact of the matter is, if I were to walk into the Southern Baptist church down the street in full drag and yell at the top of my lungs "GOD BLESS RuPAUL, MADONNA AND CHER!!!" the reaction is not exactly gonna be cheers and applause, you know what I'm sayin'? Also, as far as verbal abuse goes, verbal internet abuse is about on the same level as, oh I dunno, being forced to sit through the Star Wars Christmas Special. It kind of stings, but really, it's not like being boiled in oil or having to host both Sean Hannity and Hillary Clinton at the same dinner party.

*Disclaimer - I've never walked anywhere in full drag in my entire life. I'm the type of gay who prefers Civilization IV to gay bars, college football to shopping, and Lord of the Rings to the Lifetime Channel. I'm just like all of you! Really!

And at the end of the day, I think that's exactly the point that needs to be made. I'm just like you.



So say we all, yo.