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Icyedge on 25 April 2010
nightsurge said:
MikeB said:

The PS3 is technically a lot more powerful than the XBox 360. This due to Blu-Ray, default harddrive and of course the Cell processor. Like Santa Monica stated God of War 3 is their first major effort on the PS3, they said look at where they are now and imagine what they will be able to do a couple of years from now.

Many don't realize the PS3's GPU is more powerful than the XBox 360 GPU, that 360 GPU is more flexible but the Cell is far more flexibile at the stuff it's more flexible at and a hell of a lot more powerful than the 360's CPU, allowing for a lot more game complexity (something which will not show in PS3/360 multi-platform titles).

Wow... more misinformation from MikeB.

The PS3's GPU is NOT more powerful than the 360 GPU.  No two ways around it.

And the only reason you haven't yet seen a 360 game visually striking as God of War 3 is because of the very well known fact that the current best looking 360 games are still using Unreal Engine 3.... a MULTIPLAT engine.  The only game so far to be using a new engine designed for the 360 is Alan Wake and we will see how visually striking that is in just a few short weeks.

Also, the whole "a hell of a lot more powerful than the 360's CPU" line is purely puffery.  In case you don't know what puffery means watch the latest Dominoes commercials....   Puffing generally is defined as exaggerated, vague, or loosely optimistic statements about a company that are deemed so immaterial and unworthy of reliance that they cannot serve as the basis for liability. The difference between a statement of fact and mere puffery rests in the specificity or generality of the claim.

He said that the PS3 GPU in conjuncture with the Cell processor was more powerful than the 360 GPU, this shouldnt be a surprise for anyone interested in video-games. But it seems like your not interested in video games as a whole.



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nightsurge on 25 April 2010
Icyedge said:
nightsurge said:
MikeB said:

The PS3 is technically a lot more powerful than the XBox 360. This due to Blu-Ray, default harddrive and of course the Cell processor. Like Santa Monica stated God of War 3 is their first major effort on the PS3, they said look at where they are now and imagine what they will be able to do a couple of years from now.

Many don't realize the PS3's GPU is more powerful than the XBox 360 GPU, that 360 GPU is more flexible but the Cell is far more flexibile at the stuff it's more flexible at and a hell of a lot more powerful than the 360's CPU, allowing for a lot more game complexity (something which will not show in PS3/360 multi-platform titles).

Wow... more misinformation from MikeB.

The PS3's GPU is NOT more powerful than the 360 GPU.  No two ways around it.

And the only reason you haven't yet seen a 360 game visually striking as God of War 3 is because of the very well known fact that the current best looking 360 games are still using Unreal Engine 3.... a MULTIPLAT engine.  The only game so far to be using a new engine designed for the 360 is Alan Wake and we will see how visually striking that is in just a few short weeks.

Also, the whole "a hell of a lot more powerful than the 360's CPU" line is purely puffery.  In case you don't know what puffery means watch the latest Dominoes commercials....   Puffing generally is defined as exaggerated, vague, or loosely optimistic statements about a company that are deemed so immaterial and unworthy of reliance that they cannot serve as the basis for liability. The difference between a statement of fact and mere puffery rests in the specificity or generality of the claim.

He said that the PS3 GPU in conjuncture with the Cell processor was more powerful than the 360 GPU, this shouldnt be a surprise for anyone interested in video-games. But it seems like your not interested in video games as a whole.

No, that's not what he said at all.  Had he said that I would have not argued because that is true.  But the 360 GPU vs JUST the RSX, the 360 GPU wins in nearly every way.  It is the more powerful standalone part.

MikeB exists to spread misinformation and stealth troll all things other than the PS3.



MikeB on 25 April 2010

@ nightsurge

I just said the performance of the RSX is greater than the Xenos. But you should not tunnelvision on RSX vs Xenos as the RSX was designed to take advantage of the Cell processor. So pretending the RSX is designed to operate standalone would be misleading.

The RSX is a much better fit for the Cell processor than the Xenos can be. It's more powerful at things it needs to be powerful, it's not as flexible in various ways as the Xenos, but technically doesn't need to be, this as a powerful enough CPU is more flexible at those things than the Xenos.

This is what I have been saying for so many years and it shows in modern PS3 games.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

nightsurge on 25 April 2010
MikeB said:

@ nightsurge

I just said the performance of the RSX is greater than the Xenos. But you should not tunnelvision on RSX vs Xenos as the RSX was designed to take advantage of the Cell processor. So pretending the RSX is designed to operate standalone would be misleading.

The RSX is a much better fit for the Cell processor than the Xenos can be. It's more powerful at things it needs to be powerful, it's not as flexible in various ways as the Xenos, but technically doesn't need to be, this as a powerful enough CPU is more flexible at those things than the Xenos.

This is what I have been saying for so many years and it shows in modern PS3 games.

No, way to try and dodge your misinformation tactics again.  You said, and I quote:

"Many don't realize the PS3's GPU is more powerful than the XBox 360 GPU"

No where did you state anything to do with a combination of the Cell.  The whole reason the RSX is made to work with the Cell is because the original plan was to JUST use the Cell and once they realized that would not be enough to compete in the long run they added a rather weak standalone GPU to work in tune with the Cell.

As for a straight GPU comparison like you tried to claim, the 360 GPU is superior in nearly every aspect.



leo-j on 25 April 2010

I don't get how this thread went from being "THE CELL IS DOING WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE DOING" to "360 IS THE SAME AS PS3"

wtf is this?



 

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gekkokamen on 25 April 2010

^360 fanboys, the videogame website CANCER of this generation?



MikeB on 25 April 2010

@ nightsurge

I repeated again in the post you are replying to that the RSX is more powerful than the Xenos.

You can reread postings by me here at VGChartz stating, the RSX is more powerful, however both GPUs provide advantages as well as disadvantages and the RSX is designed for the Cell and that the Cell + RSX >>> Xenos + Xenon.

Nothing new here.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Icyedge on 25 April 2010
nightsurge said:
MikeB said:

@ nightsurge

I just said the performance of the RSX is greater than the Xenos. But you should not tunnelvision on RSX vs Xenos as the RSX was designed to take advantage of the Cell processor. So pretending the RSX is designed to operate standalone would be misleading.

The RSX is a much better fit for the Cell processor than the Xenos can be. It's more powerful at things it needs to be powerful, it's not as flexible in various ways as the Xenos, but technically doesn't need to be, this as a powerful enough CPU is more flexible at those things than the Xenos.

This is what I have been saying for so many years and it shows in modern PS3 games.

No, way to try and dodge your misinformation tactics again.  You said, and I quote:

"Many don't realize the PS3's GPU is more powerful than the XBox 360 GPU"

No where did you state anything to do with a combination of the Cell.  The whole reason the RSX is made to work with the Cell is because the original plan was to JUST use the Cell and once they realized that would not be enough to compete in the long run they added a rather weak standalone GPU to work in tune with the Cell.

As for a straight GPU comparison like you tried to claim, the 360 GPU is superior in nearly every aspect.

Im not sure if MikeB love to spread misinformation or not but in this case hes right. Just read a little farther "Many don't realize the PS3's GPU is more powerful than the XBox 360 GPU, that 360 GPU is more flexible but the Cell is far more flexibile at the stuff it's more flexible at and a hell of a lot more powerful than the 360's CPU,"

He explained just after why he meant the PS3 GPU was more powerful and flexible. Also, this thread was about the Cell being part of the GPU (or should we says GPUs) in exclusive PS3 game. Either we call it GPU as a whole (like MikeB) or we can say theres more than one GPU. The conclusion is the same anyway.



Hynad on 25 April 2010
gekkokamen said:
^360 fanboys, the videogame website CANCER of this generation?

No.

 

Allow me to correct you:


Fanboys, the CANCER of the video-gaming world.



Icyedge on 25 April 2010
Hynad said:
gekkokamen said:
^360 fanboys, the videogame website CANCER of this generation?

No.

 

Allow me to correct you:


Fanboys, the CANCER of the video-gaming world.

Nice one lol.