Wii has the most zombie games and the most music games, and pretty soon they're going to have the first zombie game that you can play with a guitar.

Nintendo deserves every good thing that ever happens to anybody.

#1, and lets start by that crying thing. I only "raged" once because I was starting to get stupid replies on this thread, and it's extremly annoying when people manipulate what I'm trying to say to make me look like the worst sony fanboy on Earth. Another thing that annoys me, is when basically people just make false assumptions about me. The usual, "if you're not on my side, then you're my enemy" and therefor, I'm nothing more than a Nintendo hater.

#2, about the nunchunk, and now this is what I was refering to, if you simply cared to read just one or two of my previous posts, you could have easily noticed that I used to have a Wii (no longer have it, but that doesn't matter). The thing is, I had to buy a second controller, and that controller, not the one that comes with the Wii, didn't have a nunchunk. "it helps to do some research before you make an argument" Lol at the irony...

#3, I made some research (like you asked =P) and it was actually 250€, not 200€ (the price cut only happened in September). 250€ is something like... 330$. I really made a big mystake on all of my posts, should have just sticked to € instead of using $ and €. But anyway, even if it isn't very cheap to release products in Europe, I really can't see how it could be 80$ more expensive per Wii. Well actually, all countries in Europe get ripped off by everyone. Except the UK.

#4, "They even admitted that they thought about selling the system at 300$ during launch, but the decided a cheaper price was better" "You really think Sony wanted to give you a good deal on the system?" Replace "Sony" by Nintendo and you'll get my opinion about that - they probably made the math and knew that a 250$ console would be more appealing, and therefor it would give 'em more money.

#5, 600$ might be too much money for a console, I can understand that. And most great games only started to show up on 2007/08, so you can say that Sony did bad on the early years. And yh, I think that Sony gave me a good deal - the software is pretty damn good, at least in my opinion, and besides that, the hardware is reliable and the most advanced on consoles (of course that doesn't mean anything if it doesn't have good games). If someone sells me a car for 6000$, even tho it costed 8000$ to make, then at least in my head, it's a good deal... specially because it does stuff that other cars don't XD

Laugh all you want, I stand by it. I don't find games that focus more on cutscenes than actual gameplay very hardcore. Sorry.

not fail....

The motion controls are taken advantage of the wii's hardware.

Useing the pointer to collect star bits and doing  things with it
The ball
The sting ray
Useing the spin attack

You want nintendo to dumb down these features to put on a standered controller?
Some of these can't work as good or be as fun as motion controls.
Also finding a replacement is a little harder

The ball won't be as fun
The sting ray will be harder to control
the spin attack won't feel statisfing
Also the pointer will be near impossible to replace. Useing anothor anolgoe won't work well. 

I'm pretty sure the OP is being sarcastic. If not...

This

1) wasn't aimed at you, but everyone who claims that nintendo is evil because they didn't lose money while selling a console while Sony did.

2) sorry I interpreted that a console should come with a nunchuck as a controller should come as a nunchuck. Next time say what you mean. Either way, they would charge $60 for a Wiimote/Nunchuck combo which really isn't that expensive compared to the $54 PS3 controller. However, you don't need a nunchuck for most games, so why force it on a customer? seems like a good idea to me.

3) you asked about a price, and it was the price. As for 250 eruo != $330. You have a ~20% VAT. This places it at ~$270 which an extra $20 for distribution in PAL territories is understandable.

4) I don't deny they wanted to make more money, everyone does, but they didn't intentionaly overprice it in case it only sold 10m to the Nintendo faithful. Nintendo themselves thought they would only sell 20m units lifetime (like all the analysts) hence the horrible shortages as they had to ramp up production facilities.

5) I don't even know why we are talking about Sony costing so much, but people keep using it as a poor example of why Nintendo are a bunch of greedy bastards. Sony was just as greedy, but they failed and instead lost money. Again, if someone sold you a car for $6000 (rather than 8k) and then forced you to do all the work at their shop and charged more than anyone else, would you feel you got a good deal? Thats how the PS3 works. You have to buy their PS3 software which they charge more from 3rd parties than anyone else. It's just that the costs are hidden with the games rather than being right up in your face. In the end, Neither company makes me feel like I got more value for my $, mostly because I waited until I got the PS3 for $300 which is a much more reasonable price for a blu-ray player & game system. Espeically because the PS3 failed as a multimedia system and I ended up building a HTPC to repalce it (with the exception of Blu-ray)

@masterZack damn right, I have PS3 & WII was going to get 360 but any game i want for that system I can get on PS3or PC. got both portables 2

@killerYoshis I see where your coming from, going to standard controls would defeat the whole purpose of WII. But it seems thats where devs are going, lets keep it real, most of the WII games can be done on a standard controller, NSMBWii, Metroid, Mario Kart, Brawl besides the Wii Sports games most on Ninty games "motion control" feel like an afterthought (looking at you Twilight Princess) 3rd parties are not even trying anymore. They really need to try to focus on motion+ Red steel 2 is the only game that has really pushed Wii, in controls and visuals

Killeryoshi is making good points. Listen and learn.  My thoughts Mario galaxy is one of the best games ever made.  Motion controller makes the game fun and unique. Side note, Video games wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't for nintendo. Past and present.

I think you and some HD fans here are misunderstanding KY's point because you don't understand the Wii's aim, MC is not there to do something that can't be done else where it's to offer a different experience. Playing a FPS on a mouse and keyboard is different then playing with a controller and that's basically what MCs aim is, playing various genres with the Wiimote will yield a different experience then with any other controller, it's not there to do the impossible it's ther to add new life into something there are levels on Galaxy like the stingray and balancing on the ball and such that I know I'd find dull on standard controls. MC ain't for everyone so don' knock it if you don't find the appeal.

@ Tuganuno

Never insulted you at all just simply pointed out that the post I replied to had some seriously daft logic employed.

I agree with Galaxy being fine on the Wii, and that "more power doesn't mean better".  What I was disagreeing with was that "Galaxy would not be enhanced and would be exactly the same on PS3".

First off, I'm not talking about controls or whether Nintendo's decision going with Wii tech vs HD tech was good or bad; that's a totally different topic... I for one like the Wii a lot.  I'm only talking if Nintendo had a console equivalent to PS3 in power.  Your comparison to NMH makes me think you're referring to some touched-up port of Galaxy with iffy controls to PS3.  I'm talking about a ground-up game of Mario with that much power to work with.  More power doesn't mean better, but what you're implying is that it wouldn't, or even couldn't be better.  You're underestimating Nintendo's abilities and imagination.  If the Wii had PS3 tech under the hood, a company like Nintendo would not limit themselves; why would they?