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dunno001 on 22 April 2010

Ah, we're getting into the good ones now. Let's make this quick-

FF3: It's kinda hard to point to what I like and what I don't in this one, but it does resonate with me. I guess the best thing about it was the ability to change classes (which was perfected in 5), but parts of the story just felt so cheesy... the rest was unmemorable. But it was a damn fun game, and that's what matters. 7.4/10

FF4: This was the beginning of damn fine RPGing. A wonderful overworld map (and 2 others), a nice challenge, memorable characters with a good story, and songs that bring back a nostalgic feeling. I can't call it perfect, though, the inability to pick your party is a flaw, and while fixed in remakes for the end, they introduce other problems. And there was the difficulty nerfing of the US release called FF2, meaning we've really not gotten this game in it's proper. But piecing in what I know, it deserves to be one of the best games made. 8.8/10



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-On a quest for the truly perfect game; I don't think it exists...

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Khuutra on 22 April 2010
dunno001 said:
Ah, we're getting into the good ones now. Let's make this quick-

FF3: It's kinda hard to point to what I like and what I don't in this one, but it does resonate with me. I guess the best thing about it was the ability to change classes (which was perfected in 5), but parts of the story just felt so cheesy... the rest was unmemorable. But it was a damn fun game, and that's what matters. 7.4/10

FF4: This was the beginning of damn fine RPGing. A wonderful overworld map (and 2 others), a nice challenge, memorable characters with a good story, and songs that bring back a nostalgic feeling. I can't call it perfect, though, the inability to pick your party is a flaw, and while fixed in remakes for the end, they introduce other problems. And there was the difficulty nerfing of the US release called FF2, meaning we've really not gotten this game in it's proper. But piecing in what I know, it deserves to be one of the best games made. 8.8/10

We got the original difficulty for FFIV in the GBA version.... though it was cranked up even higher in the DS version.



darthdevidem01 on 22 April 2010
CommonMan said:
darthdevidem01 said:
IvorEvilen said:

FFIII - 9/10

Final Fantasy III is the first good game in the series, at least in my opinion, and was an excellent conclusion to the series on the NES. The DS version only improves on the amazing gameplay, fun story, memorable characters, outstanding music, and engrossing world that is explored overall. I don't know what it is about this game, but whenever I play it, I just have so much fun. The only NES rpg that I have more fun playing than this game is Dragon Warrior IV, the pinnacle of NES rpgs.


FFIV - 3/10 (I wanted to give it a 2, but I had to refrain myself.)

Technically I played this rpg before FFIII, but FFIV is a MASSIVE let down following its amazing predecessor. I've played the SNES version, the GBA version, and the DS version... I've tried to like this game, I really have, but the only way to describe my feelings about this game is the word "hate". Even avoiding my personal biases, I can't find any redeeming factors about this game. To call it average would be a joke.

Awful characters, painful dialogue, a mostly forgettable soundtrack (there are a few amazing gems though that feel out of place in the crap around it), a very boring world, an extremely shallow... and short story when you think about it, and gameplay that is for the most part... empty. Sure, there is the ATB, but that is it. The characters learn set skills at a pace, which isn't too big of a deal if the battles have strategy that make the most of the abilites, but for the most part battles are pretty much attack and heal fests. Most abilities aren't used. There is almost no sense of exploration, with the exception of a few hidden chests. Pacing is horrendous too... ugh, I feel like I am going ADD on all the flaws with this game, I'll just stop before I tear out anyone's heart.

And no, I'm not trolling. Just my honest opinion.

lol don't worry, if people giving FFVIII 0/10 in its thread weren't seen as "trolling"....you definetely aren't

Even though I can't fathom some of your complaints.

Would you like to share the paper bag I'm currently hyperventilating into?

. . .it's okay. . . it's just an opinion. . . (my mantra right now)

I don't share paper bags with people who claim MGS4's gameplay is bad not to mention other offenses, besides using paper bags is so common, man.

I'm using my pure chinese silk made PS3 gold logo embedded bag thanks very much!

I hope your paper bag leaks!

{gets knife & cuts hole in it before running away with the Han Solo avatar}



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

CommonMan on 22 April 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
CommonMan said:
darthdevidem01 said:
IvorEvilen said:

FFIII - 9/10

Final Fantasy III is the first good game in the series, at least in my opinion, and was an excellent conclusion to the series on the NES. The DS version only improves on the amazing gameplay, fun story, memorable characters, outstanding music, and engrossing world that is explored overall. I don't know what it is about this game, but whenever I play it, I just have so much fun. The only NES rpg that I have more fun playing than this game is Dragon Warrior IV, the pinnacle of NES rpgs.


FFIV - 3/10 (I wanted to give it a 2, but I had to refrain myself.)

Technically I played this rpg before FFIII, but FFIV is a MASSIVE let down following its amazing predecessor. I've played the SNES version, the GBA version, and the DS version... I've tried to like this game, I really have, but the only way to describe my feelings about this game is the word "hate". Even avoiding my personal biases, I can't find any redeeming factors about this game. To call it average would be a joke.

Awful characters, painful dialogue, a mostly forgettable soundtrack (there are a few amazing gems though that feel out of place in the crap around it), a very boring world, an extremely shallow... and short story when you think about it, and gameplay that is for the most part... empty. Sure, there is the ATB, but that is it. The characters learn set skills at a pace, which isn't too big of a deal if the battles have strategy that make the most of the abilites, but for the most part battles are pretty much attack and heal fests. Most abilities aren't used. There is almost no sense of exploration, with the exception of a few hidden chests. Pacing is horrendous too... ugh, I feel like I am going ADD on all the flaws with this game, I'll just stop before I tear out anyone's heart.

And no, I'm not trolling. Just my honest opinion.

lol don't worry, if people giving FFVIII 0/10 in its thread weren't seen as "trolling"....you definetely aren't

Even though I can't fathom some of your complaints.

Would you like to share the paper bag I'm currently hyperventilating into?

. . .it's okay. . . it's just an opinion. . . (my mantra right now)

I don't share paper bags with people who claim MGS4's gameplay is bad not to mention other offenses, besides using paper bags is so common, man.

I'm using my pure chinese silk made PS3 gold logo embedded bag thanks very much!

I hope your paper bag leaks!

{gets knife & cuts hole in it before running away with the Han Solo avatar}

<----- CommonMan

 



No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful.

dunno001 on 22 April 2010
Khuutra said:
dunno001 said:
Ah, we're getting into the good ones now. Let's make this quick-

FF3: It's kinda hard to point to what I like and what I don't in this one, but it does resonate with me. I guess the best thing about it was the ability to change classes (which was perfected in 5), but parts of the story just felt so cheesy... the rest was unmemorable. But it was a damn fun game, and that's what matters. 7.4/10

FF4: This was the beginning of damn fine RPGing. A wonderful overworld map (and 2 others), a nice challenge, memorable characters with a good story, and songs that bring back a nostalgic feeling. I can't call it perfect, though, the inability to pick your party is a flaw, and while fixed in remakes for the end, they introduce other problems. And there was the difficulty nerfing of the US release called FF2, meaning we've really not gotten this game in it's proper. But piecing in what I know, it deserves to be one of the best games made. 8.8/10

We got the original difficulty for FFIV in the GBA version.... though it was cranked up even higher in the DS version.

IIRC, extra dungeons were added to the GBA version, varying the game slightly, though I guess one could ignore them and still get the original name. However, the DS version did add a new mechanic- the ability to move skills around, and that does not belong in FF4. Though I'd also prefer the game without all those added FMV scenes; yes, I do think they partially were responsible for ruining Chrono Trigger DS.



-dunno001

-On a quest for the truly perfect game; I don't think it exists...

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darthdevidem01 on 22 April 2010
CommonMan said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CommonMan said:
darthdevidem01 said:
IvorEvilen said:

FFIII - 9/10

Final Fantasy III is the first good game in the series, at least in my opinion, and was an excellent conclusion to the series on the NES. The DS version only improves on the amazing gameplay, fun story, memorable characters, outstanding music, and engrossing world that is explored overall. I don't know what it is about this game, but whenever I play it, I just have so much fun. The only NES rpg that I have more fun playing than this game is Dragon Warrior IV, the pinnacle of NES rpgs.


FFIV - 3/10 (I wanted to give it a 2, but I had to refrain myself.)

Technically I played this rpg before FFIII, but FFIV is a MASSIVE let down following its amazing predecessor. I've played the SNES version, the GBA version, and the DS version... I've tried to like this game, I really have, but the only way to describe my feelings about this game is the word "hate". Even avoiding my personal biases, I can't find any redeeming factors about this game. To call it average would be a joke.

Awful characters, painful dialogue, a mostly forgettable soundtrack (there are a few amazing gems though that feel out of place in the crap around it), a very boring world, an extremely shallow... and short story when you think about it, and gameplay that is for the most part... empty. Sure, there is the ATB, but that is it. The characters learn set skills at a pace, which isn't too big of a deal if the battles have strategy that make the most of the abilites, but for the most part battles are pretty much attack and heal fests. Most abilities aren't used. There is almost no sense of exploration, with the exception of a few hidden chests. Pacing is horrendous too... ugh, I feel like I am going ADD on all the flaws with this game, I'll just stop before I tear out anyone's heart.

And no, I'm not trolling. Just my honest opinion.

lol don't worry, if people giving FFVIII 0/10 in its thread weren't seen as "trolling"....you definetely aren't

Even though I can't fathom some of your complaints.

Would you like to share the paper bag I'm currently hyperventilating into?

. . .it's okay. . . it's just an opinion. . . (my mantra right now)

I don't share paper bags with people who claim MGS4's gameplay is bad not to mention other offenses, besides using paper bags is so common, man.

I'm using my pure chinese silk made PS3 gold logo embedded bag thanks very much!

I hope your paper bag leaks!

{gets knife & cuts hole in it before running away with the Han Solo avatar}

<----- CommonMan

 

Bah I hate seeing anyone sad, here's a present!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Khuutra on 22 April 2010
dunno001 said:
Khuutra said:

We got the original difficulty for FFIV in the GBA version.... though it was cranked up even higher in the DS version.

IIRC, extra dungeons were added to the GBA version, varying the game slightly, though I guess one could ignore them and still get the original name. However, the DS version did add a new mechanic- the ability to move skills around, and that does not belong in FF4. Though I'd also prefer the game without all those added FMV scenes; yes, I do think they partially were responsible for ruining Chrono Trigger DS.

You didn't have to use them if you didn't want, though they were very helpful with the increased difficulty.

And the game only had two FMVs. They weren't done in addition to in-game cutscenes, either. FMVs work perfectly fine in FFIV DS.

And youo can turn the FMVs off in Chrono Trigger DS.



Christian973 on 22 April 2010

I agree with Darth. You can clump up 5 with 10-2 as i'm pretty sure all of us know what game you're talking about. VI deserves to have its own thread as much as VII does. If i don't see 6 have its own thread, lots of us are going to be very unhappy.



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AkibaFan on 22 April 2010
Christian973 said:
I agree with Darth. You can clump up 5 with 10-2 as i'm pretty sure all of us know what game you're talking about. VI deserves to have its own thread as much as VII does. If i don't see 6 have its own thread, lots of us are going to be very unhappy.

What do u mean by tht? stop being pretentious, the order will look weird if i hve ff10-2 and ff5 in same thread. if u get angry about such things it speaks more about u as a person thn my decision to keep things orderly and practical. 

 



CommonMan on 22 April 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
CommonMan said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CommonMan said:
darthdevidem01 said:
IvorEvilen said:

FFIII - 9/10

Final Fantasy III is the first good game in the series, at least in my opinion, and was an excellent conclusion to the series on the NES. The DS version only improves on the amazing gameplay, fun story, memorable characters, outstanding music, and engrossing world that is explored overall. I don't know what it is about this game, but whenever I play it, I just have so much fun. The only NES rpg that I have more fun playing than this game is Dragon Warrior IV, the pinnacle of NES rpgs.


FFIV - 3/10 (I wanted to give it a 2, but I had to refrain myself.)

Technically I played this rpg before FFIII, but FFIV is a MASSIVE let down following its amazing predecessor. I've played the SNES version, the GBA version, and the DS version... I've tried to like this game, I really have, but the only way to describe my feelings about this game is the word "hate". Even avoiding my personal biases, I can't find any redeeming factors about this game. To call it average would be a joke.

Awful characters, painful dialogue, a mostly forgettable soundtrack (there are a few amazing gems though that feel out of place in the crap around it), a very boring world, an extremely shallow... and short story when you think about it, and gameplay that is for the most part... empty. Sure, there is the ATB, but that is it. The characters learn set skills at a pace, which isn't too big of a deal if the battles have strategy that make the most of the abilites, but for the most part battles are pretty much attack and heal fests. Most abilities aren't used. There is almost no sense of exploration, with the exception of a few hidden chests. Pacing is horrendous too... ugh, I feel like I am going ADD on all the flaws with this game, I'll just stop before I tear out anyone's heart.

And no, I'm not trolling. Just my honest opinion.

lol don't worry, if people giving FFVIII 0/10 in its thread weren't seen as "trolling"....you definetely aren't

Even though I can't fathom some of your complaints.

Would you like to share the paper bag I'm currently hyperventilating into?

. . .it's okay. . . it's just an opinion. . . (my mantra right now)

I don't share paper bags with people who claim MGS4's gameplay is bad not to mention other offenses, besides using paper bags is so common, man.

I'm using my pure chinese silk made PS3 gold logo embedded bag thanks very much!

I hope your paper bag leaks!

{gets knife & cuts hole in it before running away with the Han Solo avatar}

<----- CommonMan

 

Bah I hate seeing anyone sad, here's a present!

Thanks Darth! I would have been one sad panda had you hated me forever!



No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful.