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TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:

I can keep on going and going and shooting down any feature you mention about the usefulness of a Mac.

Yes, and I could continue to refute all your clames. we could replay a million other threads where we go back and forth... that's not the point.

The point is, that I have seen you in more then one thread come from the position of I don't like it or have a need for it, therefor it sucks.

There are dozens and dozens of models of cars, and I am sure there is one that fits you better then all the rest. That does not make the rest shit.

Linux has it's place. Windows has it's place, and OSX has it's place. How your lifestyle and needs fit into what Apple is selling has absolutely nothing to do with Apple, yet it seems to be the metric that you base the companies worth on.

Oh, and spotlight was added to OSX 6 years ago. What was the Linux tool back then that did the same thing?

The thing is that with Windows 7, OSX became utterly obsolete. But I guess you are right. I recently learned, through South Park nonetheless, that there is such a thing as Brazilian Fart Porn. So if there is an audience for that, why not for Macs. However, saying that it is actually better than anything other than superficial details is just a folly.

Just 6 years ago for spotlight? The Oxford Endglish Dictionary Online had draft entries for grep as far back as 2003. Also, Never use the security argument. Even I could probably find some way onto your computer and I have not been in a security class in years.

When I need a text editor, I hit Apple-SpaceBar, type "tex" and hit enter. That's not grep. 

And no, Windows 7 did not make Apple product obsolete. We have gone around on this over and over... how about I set up a senario, and you then make it better with Windows 7...

Let's say I am a 55 year old woman who has never really used a computer much. My kids have moved to another country, and I now want to keep in touch with them. Let's say this woman has no one she can really talk to about computers, but she knows she wants one.

This woman could walk into an Apple store, and as soon as she walks in, a trained customer service rep will come talk to her with a smile, make her feel invited, and find out what her needs are. They will spend hours if needed talking to her about all the features, and demoing all the applications. Now to browse the web, how to send and receive email, and so forth. They will explain about the free workshops they offer in the store to go over topics if she wants more help.

So let's say she then buys a 21" iMac. She takes it home, plugs in a cable, and she is done. 

Where is she going to get this level of treatment if she wanted a Windows 7 PC? Best Buy? Give me a break. There is no Linux option for this woman.

In that case, Apple is the best option for her. Nothing else comes close. For her, and the millions like her, Apple is anything but a shit company.

Now that's just one option. Another is me, a tech savvy person with 5 computers, 1 running Windows Server 2008, and another running Windows 7, yet I sit here tying this in OSX.

I have used dozens of Linux distro's over the years, and yet I sit here in OSX. Do you think I do that just because I care about image? No. I do it because the things I most want in an OS, OSX does better then any other OS I have used.

It might not for you... you like the scroll down the side of the touchpad. I think that sucks. You most likely like two physical mouse buttons, I like clicking the one with two fingers on the touch pad much better. You like apps closing, I like them not.

Neither of us are wrong. For what you like Windows/Linux is better. For what I like, OSX is better. The difference, is I am not discrediting the OS's that fit you, just because they don't fit me. You on the other hand, are.

Funny, I have to do alt+space and then type in "no" to launch my notepad++.

The funniest part is that my girlfriend's mother is 62 and I had no problem whatsoever in helping her in getting her to use the internet, and that was on XP. Windows 7 has made even greater strides at guiding people without outside help. The worst problem I had was to remote dektop to her computer so I can fix her bookmarks because she deleted some by accident. She has no problems running around the internet now, and she is consistently on facebook.

She also doesn't just buy a Mac and plug it in, the time she will spend launching her internet on a Windows machine is probably as much as the time she spent on going to an Apple store and talking to a tech support person.

Also, I dunno how tech savvy you must be if you counted your opening sentence as a positive over a Windows machine considering I do it with the exact same amount of button presses.



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mirgro said:

Funny, I have to do alt+space and then type in "no" to launch my notepad++.

Also, I dunno how tech savvy you must be if you counted your opening sentence as a positive over a Windows machine considering I do it with the exact same amount of button presses.

That's because Windows 7 ripped off this feature. That's what I said.

Welcome MS to 6 years ago. Good to have you with us. Now catch up with the dozens of other things that make OS X so much better.



Woo.  A Windows vs OSX fight.  Shocking.


Congrats to Apple.



TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:

Funny, I have to do alt+space and then type in "no" to launch my notepad++.

Also, I dunno how tech savvy you must be if you counted your opening sentence as a positive over a Windows machine considering I do it with the exact same amount of button presses.

That's because Windows 7 ripped off this feature. That's what I said.

Welcome MS to 6 years ago. Good to have you with us. Now catch up with the dozens of other things that make OS X so much better.

Yes, and Apple ripped off grep. So, what's your argument again?

Please do inform me of other amazing features I haven't seen yet that OSX has, because I have anything useful OSX has, plus a whole lot of things that aren't able to run on OSX.



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mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:

Funny, I have to do alt+space and then type in "no" to launch my notepad++.

Also, I dunno how tech savvy you must be if you counted your opening sentence as a positive over a Windows machine considering I do it with the exact same amount of button presses.

That's because Windows 7 ripped off this feature. That's what I said.

Welcome MS to 6 years ago. Good to have you with us. Now catch up with the dozens of other things that make OS X so much better.

Yes, and Apple ripped off grep. So, what's your argument again?

Please do inform me of other amazing features I haven't seen yet that OSX has, because I have anything useful OSX has, plus a whole lot of things that aren't able to run on OSX.

Sigh... Spotlight is not grep. It's hard to argue with the uninformed.

OSX has always had grep, from day one. Read up, and please stop arguing from a position of ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep



TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:

Funny, I have to do alt+space and then type in "no" to launch my notepad++.

Also, I dunno how tech savvy you must be if you counted your opening sentence as a positive over a Windows machine considering I do it with the exact same amount of button presses.

That's because Windows 7 ripped off this feature. That's what I said.

Welcome MS to 6 years ago. Good to have you with us. Now catch up with the dozens of other things that make OS X so much better.

Yes, and Apple ripped off grep. So, what's your argument again?

Please do inform me of other amazing features I haven't seen yet that OSX has, because I have anything useful OSX has, plus a whole lot of things that aren't able to run on OSX.

Sigh... Spotlight is not grep. It's hard to argue with the uninformed.

OSX has always had grep, from day one. Read up, and please stop arguing from a position of ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep

I've had to use it before, and I know that it has the same functionality. Maybe you just aren't familiar with grep and how it works. Though applications isn't one of its sstrengths unless you know the name of the file.



mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Sigh... Spotlight is not grep. It's hard to argue with the uninformed.

OSX has always had grep, from day one. Read up, and please stop arguing from a position of ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep

I've had to use it before, and I know that it has the same functionality. Maybe you just aren't familiar with grep and how it works. Though applications isn't one of its sstrengths unless you know the name of the file.

I stated using Grep in 1992 or 93.. I forget...

Grep does a search though whatever you pipe into it.. a file, a directory, whatever, but it does a search when you run it against the file system. Spotlight indexes everything ahead of time, so it's instant results. Plus, Spotlight is smart. If I use something more times then others, it bubbles to the top. If I put my sisters name in, her contact info is the first result, and 99% of the time, what I want is what it defaults to.

Grep is like search in XP, slow and painful to use. Spotlight is like hitting the Windows key in Windows 7, and typing, although Spotlight is slightly better in its results.



TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Sigh... Spotlight is not grep. It's hard to argue with the uninformed.

OSX has always had grep, from day one. Read up, and please stop arguing from a position of ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep

I've had to use it before, and I know that it has the same functionality. Maybe you just aren't familiar with grep and how it works. Though applications isn't one of its sstrengths unless you know the name of the file.

I stated using Grep in 1992 or 93.. I forget...

Grep does a search though whatever you pipe into it.. a file, a directory, whatever, but it does a search when you run it against the file system. Spotlight indexes everything ahead of time, so it's instant results. Plus, Spotlight is smart. If I use something more times then others, it bubbles to the top. If I put my sisters name in, her contact info is the first result, and 99% of the time, what I want is what it defaults to.

Grep is like search in XP, slow and painful to use. Spotlight is like hitting the Windows key in Windows 7, and typing, although Spotlight is slightly better in its results.

I am well aware that Spotlight indexes ahead of time. However it is still grep with storage and a string matcher.