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The UK 2010 Election Thread- Who will/would get your vote?

Conservative - David Cameron 19 32.20%
 
Labour - Gordon Brown 11 18.64%
 
Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg 22 37.29%
 
Other Party (Green/UKIP/Etc) 5 8.47%
 
Undecided 2 3.39%
 
Total:59
CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
Europoe

Cameron - I agree with everything he has said. Scored a point on the referendum issue.

Clegg - Stumbled a few times over words, looked nervous early on... didnt actually say he wants to jump further in, as he knows it isnt popular. what the hell does policing have to do with the EU???? bigger is better basically is what he keeps saying... tell that to the european countries not in the EU that have better economies and services than we do.

Brown - he loves a list... and he loves a soundbite. he is coming across as too aggressive.

Europol.

They are completely different economies with very different populations, not really comparable with the UK.

Would you not be happier with Cleggs promise of a referendum on actually being in the EU should more powers be transferred to Brussels rather than Camerons referendum on only the issue at hand given your (and the general publics) scepticism?



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headshot91 on 22 April 2010
SciFiBoy said:
headshot91 said:
SciFiBoy said:
headshot91 said:
SciFiBoy said:
headshot91 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
headshot91 said:
I am undecided personally over Labour/ Liberal Democrats.
Anyone who votes for the BNP is either misinformed or an idiot :)

BNP sucks!

Too bad my friends grandma is supporting them.....she makes the "stereotype" seem true!

EDIT:

oh yeah headshot.....which party do you think is gonna be the best for us education wise, since we'r going to Uni later this year?

Well in fact, while LB seem the best party of us uni students (because they plan to scrap tuition fees), I feel this is a stupid policy designed just to capture votes...

We might be feeling good because we have £3290x3 less to pay back, but theyll have to increase tax somewhere else, plus the quality of our unis wil probably decrease!

disagree, I think that Uni should be free like all education, dont mind if it means some people pay more tax, its fair enough price for good education for the UK population.

heck, I wont even vote for a party that doesnt support scrapping tuition fees

I think Liberal democrats are the only party who will scrap tuition fees, i think cons and labour both want to either keep it the same (or more likely) raise it.

A large percentage of a unis revenue comes from tuition fees, scrap these and theyll have to charge even more for internation students (which would lead to less coming, which is actually a bad thing lol), plus theyll have to cut back on r and D for example, which employs a lot of graduates.

Plus, you do know that clegg said he wont scrap tuition fees straight away, it will be phased out over SIX years, therefore if he wins a large number of seats in the next election and has some power, his changes wont really come into effect until the NEXT election, after which he could be last again!

I will never, ever vote for Labour or the Conservatives.

they can fund those things through taxation and national insurance, we can also re-direct funds from things like Trident being scrapped and from pulling out of Afghanistan.

Woah a hardnut here ;)

Yeah i would like trident to be scrapped for something cheaper, not sure about afghanistan havent really read enough about it.

Also it would really be a BIG tax hike- 1.95 million uk uni students in 07 according to BBC-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7859034.stm

Therefore £3290x1.95million=£6,580,000,000 PER YEAR!

 

its a price worth paying imo.

I think they should keep it similiar or lower it, but not get rid of it, all the unis are saying they want an increase to 6 grand, so keeping it the same for now is better than that.



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
I think Clegg is saying the best things so far, Cameron is just pandering and Gordon is barmy.


pandering?  interesting word

you mean is saying the thing that he thinks the masses want to hear?

exactly, he always does that, says what he thinks (I dont think it will much of the time, or he would do much better in opinion polls) will win him votes rather than being honest and spelling out policy commitments. (they all need to do the last one more)



headshot91 on 22 April 2010

I think Europe is a good thing for Britain, but joining the EURO?

NO WAY!



Lolcislaw on 22 April 2010
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
I think Clegg is saying the best things so far, Cameron is just pandering and Gordon is barmy.


pandering?  interesting word

you mean is saying the thing that he thinks the masses want to hear?

exactly, he always does that, says what he thinks (I dont think it will much of the time, or he would do much better in opinion polls) will win him votes rather than being honest and spelling out policy commitments. (they all need to do the last one more)

That's exactly my problem with Cameron. I would love Ken Clarke to be a Tory Leader ! 



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SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
headshot91 said:
SciFiBoy said:
headshot91 said:
SciFiBoy said:

I will never, ever vote for Labour or the Conservatives.

they can fund those things through taxation and national insurance, we can also re-direct funds from things like Trident being scrapped and from pulling out of Afghanistan.

Woah a hardnut here ;)

Yeah i would like trident to be scrapped for something cheaper, not sure about afghanistan havent really read enough about it.

Also it would really be a BIG tax hike- 1.95 million uk uni students in 07 according to BBC-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7859034.stm

Therefore £3290x1.95million=£6,580,000,000 PER YEAR!

 

its a price worth paying imo.

I think they should keep it similiar or lower it, but not get rid of it, all the unis are saying they want an increase to 6 grand, so keeping it the same for now is better than that.

well, they should have a review of it then and decide how much we need to raise from taxes and other areas to fund Uni's in future, forcing young people in to debt is not fair or the solution imo.



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
I think Clegg is saying the best things so far, Cameron is just pandering and Gordon is barmy.


pandering?  interesting word

you mean is saying the thing that he thinks the masses want to hear?

exactly, he always does that, says what he thinks (I dont think it will much of the time, or he would do much better in opinion polls) will win him votes rather than being honest and spelling out policy commitments. (they all need to do the last one more)


so if he is pandering to the masses then he thinks and you think that the masses dont want full european integration...

no, im saying thats what he thinks they want.

im saying that I dont know what they want, which is why I think we should have a refferendum on it.

 



CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
I think Clegg is saying the best things so far, Cameron is just pandering and Gordon is barmy.


pandering?  interesting word

you mean is saying the thing that he thinks the masses want to hear?

exactly, he always does that, says what he thinks (I dont think it will much of the time, or he would do much better in opinion polls) will win him votes rather than being honest and spelling out policy commitments. (they all need to do the last one more)


so if he is pandering to the masses then he thinks and you think that the masses dont want full european integration...

Unfortunately public opinion is not always the best course of action that a country should take. I would rather have a leader who fought for what was right and not what was popular.



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010

twice now Cameron has said "I agree with Gordon"...

they ganged up on Clegg over trident and Iran...



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
CrazyHorse said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
I think Clegg is saying the best things so far, Cameron is just pandering and Gordon is barmy.


pandering?  interesting word

you mean is saying the thing that he thinks the masses want to hear?

exactly, he always does that, says what he thinks (I dont think it will much of the time, or he would do much better in opinion polls) will win him votes rather than being honest and spelling out policy commitments. (they all need to do the last one more)


so if he is pandering to the masses then he thinks and you think that the masses dont want full european integration...

Unfortunately public opinion is not always the best course of action that a country should take. I would rather have a leader who fought for what was right and not what was popular.

agree with you fully, thats part of the reason I cant stand Cameron, he's all about presentation and what he thinks will win him votes, not about whats best for the nation.