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Damnyouall said:
jarrod said:
Damnyouall said:
The article doesn't take into account that a number of 360s were banned and subsequently replaced.

It also doesn't take into account the number of PS3 owners who replaced their fats with slims

But then you'd also have to take into account that some of those fat PS3s are sold by their previous owners, quite likely to people who didn't have a PS3 before.

Eh, refurbished 360s are also seeded back into the system.  I don't see much difference here, sometimes people trade in or give away old systems, sometimes they don't, but that applies to "broken" systems as well.



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The Xbox 360 does not have that much of a higher attachment rate anymore when compared to the PS3 . Just look at the software sales of games on the PS3 now. The only games that sell outstandingly well on the X360 are Halo and Gears.

Edit: I didnt put MW2 on here because it sells really well on the PS3 too



If this was true it would mean that an average X360 owner buys about two times more games than an average PS3 owner even though X360 is pirated.

X360 has the highest failure rate but you won't replace your console during the 3 year period of warranty.
PS3 has lower failure rate but only one year of warranty.

You get it now ?



I agree with this article. Why?

because Wii now has over 50% of the market




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nordlead said:
I agree with this article. Why?

because Wii now has over 50% of the market

Ahh, but with how much dust Wiis gather I'm pretty sure the PS3 must actually be on 50% market share.

 

It has to be true, my best friend's sister's cat hasn't used is Wii in years!



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Damnyouall said:

Could it be that PS3 is Already Ahead of Xbox 360?

While PS3 has been continually outselling Microsoft's Xbox 360 worldwide ever since the price-reduced slim model of PS3 was released in September 2009, so far supposedly 39 Million Xbox 360s have been sold to consumers around the world, versus 34 Million PS3s. But is the userbase of Microsoft's Xbox 360 really larger than that of PS3 or could PS3 possibly be ahead already? There is much evidence in favor of this assumption.

As we know, Microsoft was forced to extend the warranty of Xbox 360 to three years to compensate for the extremely high failure rate, which a recent survey found to be at 42% total. Unfortunately, the survey does not differentiate between early (2005-2008) and later models of Xbox 360, which are apparently much more durable.

So far there have been five major revisions of the 360's hardware. The dreaded "Red Ring of Death" (RRoD) mostly occured in models made before late 2008: Xenon (2005-2006), Zephyr (2006-2007), Opus (2007) and Falcon (2007-2008), with each subsequent revision having lower failure rates. The worst failure rate occured in the first revision (Xenon); quite possibly above 66%. Jasper was introduced in late 2008 / early 2009, and anecdotal evidence points to it having a much more reasonable failure rate; probably well below 10%.

Xenon is now out of warranty: In late 2008, the 3-year warranty ended for those 360s sold in 2005/2006. Most of these did faill at least once during the three year period, and more than half of those that failed, failed more than once. The reason for is is that Microsoft didn't exchange defective Xenons with Falcons or Jaspers but with fixed Xenons. It is therefore safe to assume that many have failed again since the warranty ran out. In 2010, warranty runs out for the Zephyr & Opus revisions.

To sum it up, from November 2005 until late 2007, rougly 15.8 Million Xbox 360s were sold, which comprise the hardware revisions with the worst failure rates (Xenon, Zephyr, Opus). To make things simple, let's assume 60% of them died (or are eventually going to die) out of warranty = 9.4 Million. It's a given that most people who built up a library of games and play games online with their friends won't simply abandon 360 alltogether just because their out of warranty console fails; they will buy a replacement.

For simplicity's sake, let's assume 3/4 buy a new one, which equals roughly 7 Million. Now, if we substract this number from the total number of Xbox 360s sold, we arrive at 32 Million. If we only count active 360s, we also have to substract those 2.4 Million failed 360s that were not replaced. And this is probably it, the real install base of Xbox 360: 29.6 Million.

PS3 on the other hand reportedly has a failure rate of 8%; let's assume that 2/3 of the defects occured outside of Sony's 1-year warranty (=5.28%, or 1.79 Million), and that 3/4s of those who encountered a defect eventually bought a new PS3 (=1.34 Million), then we arrive at an install base of 32.21 Million.

Since we don't have precise numbers regarding failure rates, the above figures should be taken with a grain of salt.

However, the conclusion is simple: As of 2010, PS3 most likely has a larger install base than Xbox 360.

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Oh Sweetheart. Thats the best bit of statistics perversion i've seen in years. LMAO !

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I once saw a youtube video of a guy who owned 10 PS3s. It is more likely that with everyone owning multiple PS3s and then replacing the fats with slims that there are only 17 individuals who own PS3s.



scottie said:
nordlead said:
I agree with this article. Why?

because Wii now has over 50% of the market

Ahh, but with how much dust Wiis gather I'm pretty sure the PS3 must actually be on 50% market share.

 

It has to be true, my best friend's sister's cat hasn't used is Wii in years!

Maybe it will help if Prope makes a game that even a cat can play.



I can't believe some people say this is a fair point and it could be true. MS is not allowed to claim Xbox 360s sold that were replaced, because they did not make any revenue / profit. They would get a lot of trouble, bigger than an internet-meltdown :D

They sold about 39 million consoles to retai in January (fact) and the best data we can get for the current userbase is VGC with 39.5 million.

And the source is a joke btw. It is a random fanboy forum post. How low can we get? I don't trust any blogs, but forum posts are even worse as a source.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

What about software, really? Go look at the charts people, PS3 is currently whooping the 360 in software sales.



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