Badassbab said: Booh! said: Icyedge said: Booh! said: I'm more disappointed by the linear gameplay and the focus on combat than by the graphics (Remedy couldn't overcome the limits of the xbox360). Your talking about the graphic right? This game is not an RPG, it can fit on DL DVD without sacrifice to gameplay. Linear gameplay and focus on combat could have been the same as a PS3 exclusive. I'm talking about this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19871479&postcount=91 That's a Eurogamer article by Richard Leadbetter on how he expects FFXIII to turn out (written before it was released to the press for review). It's been wholly taken out of context. However Eurogamer got it wrong as the final 360 FFXIII turned out to be much worse.

And actually Alan Wake doesn't do 'proper HDR' neither like Eurogamer was referring to.

But the first Uncharted game already proved the PS3 to be more powerful with regard to this in 2007, it proved 720p with anti-aliasing and proper HDR could be done on the PS3 with impressive results. Uncharted 2 of course took things further in many different ways (hence all those rewards) and God of War 3 does MLAA on the Cell processor with overall superior results.

Although the PS3 is more powerful for rendering graphics, its strong points compared to the 360 are mainly related to more storage capacity (which allows for higher quality [and/or more varierty of] textures, audio, different languages, game content, etc) and far more processing power which can be used for building more complex and dynamic gaming worlds. I just want to say, PS3 power isn't all about just better achievable rendering results.

Though it will be interesting to see how well future stereoscopic 3D games will be optimised, to render for both eyes seperate screens is quite a performance hurdle. On the 360 even if it supported the required HDMI bandwidth, the 360 simply isn't capable enough to produce impressive results due to the EDRAM limitations. The PS3 is capable, but it's still going to take time and determination.

aragod said: Badassbab said: A victim of overylong development time. Yes, that's my main gripe with the game, when you do something for 5 years, it better be bloody damn spectacular. So far it's recieving kind of average reviews, and I don't think that press is downrating it for the development time.

Yep. Problem with spending so long on a game is the industry moves very quickly, game engines are always improving as are game designs, innovations etc. Every few months the bars being raised so when in development for 5 years, the team is under tremendous pressure to deliver and what may have looked awesome 3 years ago, doesn't look as good now. Remedy must've thought they had a steller game both gameplay wise and technically in their hands but I'm sure when they saw the 2 Uncharted Games and GOW 3 released on the PS3 not to mention ME2 and Gears on 360 before their game came out it must've added on the pressure but there's only so much they can do with the hardware and the game engine they've built. MS probably got fed up of waiting and pressured them to release it sooner rather than later. Still apparently from what I've read the graphics engine is really good and what they need to work on is the character animations and facial expressions which can be significantly improved with the latest motion capture tech.

What I really liked about the first Uncharted game was not only the animations but also the texture quality. But it had it's fair share of screen tearing. UC2 eliminated screen tearing but it's textures were more blurred than in the first game.

WHy hasn't selnor posted

^ He has. And he admitted his mistake.

I can't find his post.. all he did was edit the OP, about the 1 review saying that the lightning was the best this gen, and he added to his "BEST LOOKING GAME EVER ACCORDING TO REVIEWER" count..

@ Booh!

I want to add Remedy is a great developer, IMO Alan Wake's technical flaws and weaknesses are primarily due to XBox 360's technical limitations.

As I said before Alan Wake looks like a solid single player experience, if the 360 was the only HD console out there it would sit on the top of my wishlist for this year. If the short campaign and darkness doesn't bother you too much and you like this sort of game, IMO [360 owners] buy the game and support these great developers.

Summary,

 

Alan Wake´s graphics are amazing, specially in the lighting department. But in the end it isnt the most powerful console game graphics wise.

 

It was romantic you post Selnor...and congrats for being honest n the end, but I recommend you try not to be SO passionate sometimes. You should be passionate in the things you like, but not that much.

 

Greetz

I still would want this game on my PS3. The atmosphere seems fantastic.
Nice to see games like this being made and I would by it just for being different then the rest.
Games like these should be hyped:)

well it didnt push any envelopes or raise any bars but so far its collectively positive reviews are still a good sign, an 85 meta is nothing to frown upon , ill probably pick it up when its half price