You are incorrect with that assumption, they could detect the firmware in the last ban wave, even c4e agreed on that eventually.

About bans, Im pretty sure sony would ban the consoles by MAC address, and with out a spoofer you are pretty much SOL.

About damnyouall. Thats what I thought, you are the squeaky wheel who wants the partial refund grease on a feature you dont even use.

i went and got a used ps3 slim off a guy that was in need of cash for 100 bucks, pretty much brand new. so this will be the ps3 i use for games. i will now be using my launch 60gb ps3 for ps2, ps1, linux, dvd and blu-ray playing. and i'm really looking forward to trying out 3.21OO. sony really pissed me off by trying to take linux from me, i've already decided i will be buying all my games and accessories pre-owned so they don't make any money off of them, and i hope they get hacked hard.

Lol.

Sony is perfectly within their legal rights to do what they did. Especially if it means protecting their intellectual property. This is no different than a major patch in an MMORPG/Game. Simple logic dictates that the consumer has the choice in this regard. No one is forcing you to update anything. Individual countries specific laws designed to coddle their incapable citizens don't apply.

Read the ToS....If you agree with it. Then select 'Accept'. If you don't, then select 'I do not accept'.

yeah you show them, if you really want to hurt them you could just buy a bunch of PS3s, since they lose money on each one.

Sorry I have to ask:

You assume that every PS3 or Bluray player has its own unique key no other PS3/Bluray player has ?

And if Sony blacklisted your individual key from your PS3 they gona put it on a blacklist and your PS3 key will be pressed on every single  new released disc ? 

I never heard of that and I was truly surprised first.  I googled a bit but I found literally nothing about a person who was blacklisted by sony and cant play new bluray releases. Then I read the link. (I should have read the link first)

Indeed I understood the wikipedia article in a totally different way. I cant make the connection between:

 "The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It was developed by AS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba, andSony.

Since appearing in devices in 2006, several successful attacks have been made on the format. The first known attack relied on the trusted clientproblem. In addition, decryption keys have been extracted from a weakly protected player (WinDVD). Since keys can be revoked in newer releases,^[86] this is only a temporary attack, and new keys must continually be discovered in order to decrypt the latest discs. This cat-and-mouse game has gone through several cycles.

 "

And:

"Well its more or less if they blacklist your PS3's keys, it'll prevent you from playing any future BDs.. but whatever, you can still hug your otherOS."

This has nothing to do with the bluray player or the PS3 this has something to do with pirating bluray discs.

See those decryption keys are on the disc itself and in order to decrypt (and pirate) the disc you need those keys if you extract them you are able to copy the disc. They make new keys all the time and the pirates have to get them in order to copy the disc. This is the cat and mouse game There is no blacklist and your PS3 has not an individual Bluray key, so that Sony can put this single key on a blacklist and press it on all new bluray releases.  

To the CFW:

Sony made a mistake with the removal of Linux first because they will get in trouble atleast in some countries mainly EU and Australia. They probably hope nobody will sue them. In europe they would lose but the problem is it costs a lot to make lawsuite and it takes time and there is probably noone willing to sue Sony because of that. And Sony knows that.

I am not mad at them but I do understand if people are upset about it. You cant punish hundreds of thousend customers because someone said he hacked the PS3.

This "CFW" is not like an usual CFW. They havent deleted OOS Functionality yet they just disabled it. Geohot has switched it on again he has done it with using files of the old FW, this isnt a true CFW. Its not comparable to any CFW out there and can barely be called a CFW. Thats why he wrote my "custom firmware" and not my custom firmware.

If Sony takes out the whole functionality in the next FW everything is gone and we wont see a OOS FW a long time. Sony was playing it safe probably because they feared lawsuites so they wait some weeks or months too see peoples reactions, they will probably delete it completly nexttime if its not in the FW at all nobody can activate it. Unless you truly make a custom FW but thats a whole lot of work and will take some time maybe next year.

Thats why he said theoretically you could enable OOS on Slims too because they have also just the OtherOS switch on 

Poor geohot there's only like 100 ppl waiting for his Danm FW. Haha yeah right I'm ganna wait for these and miss all the fun I could have in U2 online. Get a life geohot and stop fucking ppl jobs up u fucker there are ppl loosing jobs and screwing families apart from ur stupid nerdy passion. Has he even play games at all? All these guy does is wake up work on his no life and go to sleep.

You don't know anything about the guy, who is sadder the guy who does something for a hobby and passion or some anonymous dude on a website lecturing others on what they should or shouldn't do in life.  He's helped more people with his "work" than you ever have or will, sounds like jealousy to me on your part.

So by YOUR logic if there are 100 slaves and they want freedom, they don't deserve it as it's a very tiny amount of people?

Sony has yet to blacklist anyone's PS3's key is strictly because PS3 hasn't been hacked to play bootlegged disc yet. In any case, I don't think you understand the technology to begin with. Blu-ray disc information are encrypted they need a decryption key to decrypt the information. 'Piraters' collect legit keys from players and use them to decrypt the blu-ray discs to watch and copy Region locked movies.  These keys that they collect can be 'revoked' such that they can no longer be used to read the disc anymore and that means the legit player that the pirate took the keys from can't be used watch new movies anymore.

Each PS3 have their own unique key stored in hardware. They use this key to decrypt the blu-ray discs. If the key gets revoked, that particular PS3 can't decrypt the new movies anymore because it got blacklisted. Here is an article about how a PS3 decrypts information http://www.vmecritical.com/articles/id/?2035