obviously the poster of this thread does not know the rules, I am pretty sure it is against rules to post anything related to hacks, in this case posting any info in here about CFW is a bad idea.

also what i said was not wrong,  I am not being juvenile, beleive it or not some of us are against CFW coming to PS3, please try harder next time to insult me.

Guys, we need to rest about this whole OtherOS feature.

Honestly, who of you used the OtherOS feature? Nobody.

Wow, do you always ASSume this much?

And even if there some people who used OO, nobody forces you to upgrade. You have to answer THREE times before the FW gets installed completely, so you can't make it by mistake.

You mean like the way people always "have a choice" when they're being blackmailed? Seriously if you can't recognise this for bblackmail, then go back to the second grade because you clearly need to repeat reading and comprehension courses at that level.

You loose PSN connectivity, but I don't think the users of OtherOS are really gamers.

Wow I guess I'm just a figment of your own imagination then. I AM a gamer and I DO use Linux as well. In fact it was for the very reasin that I could do both that I bought a 60gig "phat" at the beginning of March.

If you need Linux for your company as a cluster for example, chances are it won't be used gaming ar 99% I'd say.

Also, there's one argument that haven't been said before, I think. People whoa re buying sorely for Linux aren't doing Sony a favor, you know. The PS3 is sold at a loss. So if they buy PS3's Sony is going to loose a LOT of money, because they won't buy games, movies, controllers, etc.

If they remove OtherOS, sure, some minor sales of the PS3 are lost, but the people who are still buying PS3s (because they don't need Linux anyway) are buying games, movies and so on.

Again you ASSume. Some of us merely want it as a games console AND media PC all-in-one unit which the otherOS allowed Sony to be.

The PS3 is subsidized. And OtherOS clearly hindered that business model.

How does Sony's regretting a business decision make them above consumer laws?

Try reading the T & C of using your PS3, and you'll find ther is nothing unlawful with Sonys actions.

If Sony hadn't unlawfully - Proof it has been ruled unlawful ANYWHERE as of now.. no I didnt think so

Actually Sony in the case of Australia has broken several sections of the TPA- section 52, 53c, 68, 70 and 74 by this course of action. This is why PS3 owners here have been legally advised by the ACCC and other legal advisory services to launch criminal proceedings against Sony. It's also why the ACCC has indicated in a form letter to people complaining to them (the type of email which only gets sent out when there are several people complaining) that they are seriously investigating the matter- if you think that's something which happens in the course of a few days then you clearly lack even the most basic understanding of how a case of this scale works, including legal preparations. Nice try, but  but you fail- go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games - Speculation at best, Prove to me that any games or movies require Fw greater then 3.15, Thats what I thought

Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?

and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.  PSN access is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT.

Actually it's an advertised feature, seriously, pull your head out of Sony's backside before you post next time.

I Challenge you to post a pic of your PS3 running linux with your VGC screen name visible along with something onscreen that proves its running on your PS3 or stop your personal crusade.

Irony- someone destroying their own credibility completely with every keystroke demanding others prove their credibility. I love it.

Nobody cares about CFW but pirates.

I dont support sony on this move, but they didnt force you to loose the ability to play future games or bd movies. That would be illegual. They stated that you may not be able to use certain content without update. Like when theyll release 3D games and 3D blu ray movies this was not part of your purchase so they can restrict you on those. If they release any kind of new tech, then they may restrict you on those. Moves games are another good example. But the normal PS3 games will surely never be restricted to removing "otherOS", people would mass sue them and would win, its not going to happen.

Your right sometimes thing are just as simple as they look, but theres different ways of looking at them... In this case, they suck for doing it, but its not illegual, simple heh.