I agree that parently responsibility ultimately plays the biggest role in a childs chances in life but poverty is a key factor in how many family dynamics run and is something a government can help to change. There are of course many exceptions on either side.

Looks like Alex Salmond will be on question time later, that should be a good laugh after he wasn't allowed on the debate tonight.

anyone have youtube links for the debate that just happened?

We are in agreement

Illegal immigrants should be dumped on France's doorstep. Asylum seekers can have help but I have to wonder why they didn't stop in France. As for new EU members, let's add a year to whatever limit France decides on.

The debate on legal immigration is pointless because of the EU.

I liked Salmond until the SNP released Megrahi. It's been a long 3 months.

Ooooh I like those numbers.

I missed the beginning as I went to a late lecture (It was a special guest lecturer, the man who voiced Johnny Bravo, I had to attend that, it was great). So I had to listen to the latter half in the car on the way home. Here's what I got.

Nick Clegg - Doesn't have a clue about the economy. I liked the Lib Dem plans when I've read about them, but from tonight, Clegg didn't seem so sure footed at all.

Cameron - I don't think a minute went by where I didn't think he was a liar, a fraud, or accused him of playing the blame game. And I was sick of him saying the line "Cut public spending", as though it's a magic line that solves everything... It doesn't. Also, if he says "change" again, I'll scream.

Brown - Clearly understood the economy far better than both, however there is good reason for that, it is/was his job. I can't say he won my vote though.

Honestly, all three performed poorly.

Comres has Cameron ahead but only by 2%

Think that is YouGov, ITV gives 35% to Cameron, 33% to Clegg and 26% to Brown.

Channel 4 poll is a little different!

Cameron 13%

Clegg 42%

Brown 44%