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Khuutra on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:
pizzahut451 said:

so cherry pciking than? just say so.


They have been cherry picking the entire 800 posts... but I have to say this isn't one of those times. The loom would only work if Kratos tailored a specific thread for Link after crossing over though... butt this isn't the situation. It's the same for Link with the triforce. The guy cant just run away to start looking for the triforce in hopes of gaining it before hundreds of hundred of hundreds of years goes by.

Link already has the Triforce.



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Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
dampowell said:
Okay... I don't think this had been said. But if the Hero of Time... does not show up to defeat Kratos... or dies.. he will be reborn in another boy to face the evil again. So even if Kratos wins the first fight... he'll have millennia of fights to stop link.

In a nuetral world there would be nobody to be reborn back into, also Kratos would return to his world's hades as well... and not be able to make it back.  So really ressurection is out of the question for both.



valen200 on 16 April 2010

silliest argument ever. Like either one of them could take Mario. He pounds things into the ground with his plumber sized ass.



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letsdance on 16 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
YEah right, all link has to do is play his Ocarina to go back in time and kill kratos when he was a baby. PFfffffff easy win for Link I would say.


As can Kratos. That arguement is negated by each other.

I guess you are using the reference in the second game, when he has to run to the top of the tower, then move the big ass chains to find the exact point in time, then run again to get to the portal??

 

Dude, link just has to get his ocarina out. Kratos will take forever to get there.... it would be just too late. Link wins.

Plus, do you really know all the weapons and possible combinations link can use? All the masks, shields, swords, armors, and god knows what else.... I mean, he can turn invincible, and kratos wouldn´t be able to touch him. By saying that we can combine every link..... That just gave the win to link.

If it was a pure fight w/o weapons, sure kratos will have the advantage. But, by combining every posible scenario with every single win.... you just have link the victory my friend


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

No it isn't.  I debunked your debunking... which you then acknowledged and then decided to completly ignore.

Also you know... you said composite link.

But Khuutra agreeing that Link is imune to bombs makes me win this arguement... which is the fact that you guys are being ridiculous about that programming. You havn't debunked me.

No, it's not.  Your assuming the cloak was a "programming mistake" based on nothing but more then your PURE desire for Kratos to win.

When the developers quite literally had to add this in, unlike "bomb invincibility" which could of been an oversite of omission.


And you are assuming it wasn't when nothing describes it working the way you do and only a few short years ago they had an oversight. That is why in this situation we need to apply logic... something you and Khuutra have ignored the whole thread.



letsdance on 16 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
McClaren said:
dampowell said:
You do realize... Link could assemble the triforce and wish Kratos never existed.


You do realize... Kratos could go see the Sisters of Fate and make sure Link was never born.

hey, i said that

Though... it wouldn't work, since Link isn't from their world, and isn't woven into their loom.

Also, assuming a nuetral ground, time travel in general isn't going to help, since all you can do is travel back in time in the nuetral land... and doing so would be seen as retreating anway, prompting a loss in the fight.

so i guess triforce wouldnt work on kratos as well?

Why wouldn't it?  The Triforce works on anybody.  You don't need to be "woven into the triforce" for it to work on anybody.  It's just outword reality manipulation.

That's the thing.  The Triforce is an outword multiversal reality manipulation.  While the Loom of Fate is a very specific kind of reality manipulation.

It's like having a sword that kills skeletons in one hit and the vorpal sword.

so cherry pciking than? just say so.


They have been cherry picking the entire 800 posts... but I have to say this isn't one of those times. The loom would only work if Kratos tailored a specific thread for Link after crossing over though... butt this isn't the situation. It's the same for Link with the triforce. The guy cant just run away to start looking for the triforce in hopes of gaining it before hundreds of hundred of hundreds of years goes by.

Thankfully for link you've created a scenario where Link starts with the Triforce.

Though the Triforce is really just pure spite for Link anyway.

It's like giving Thanos the Infinity Gauntlet in a fight vs Wolverine.


Yet there is no clearity with what happens after Link touches the tri-force... andyou said so yourself that it goes away after the wish is granted. If it where all powerful like you claim with multiple wishes Ganon being the smart sorcerer that he is should have wished him out of existance.

 

And can you stop with the comic analogies. Ive never been a big comic fan. I don't think Ive ever owned a single one.



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dampowell on 16 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
dampowell said:
Okay... I don't think this had been said. But if the Hero of Time... does not show up to defeat Kratos... or dies.. he will be reborn in another boy to face the evil again. So even if Kratos wins the first fight... he'll have millennia of fights to stop link.

In a nuetral world there would be nobody to be reborn back into, also Kratos would return to his world's hades as well... and not be able to make it back.  So really ressurection is out of the question for both.

In a neutral world, neither of them would potentially be who they are.

For instance. Superman would just be MAN if he was in a neutral world. There would be no yellow sun to exploit. That makes the whole argument baseless... Basically this entire thread is just Nintedo vs Sony... so why not just base it on which sells better? That is what VgChartz is about anyways.



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Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
YEah right, all link has to do is play his Ocarina to go back in time and kill kratos when he was a baby. PFfffffff easy win for Link I would say.


As can Kratos. That arguement is negated by each other.

I guess you are using the reference in the second game, when he has to run to the top of the tower, then move the big ass chains to find the exact point in time, then run again to get to the portal??

 

Dude, link just has to get his ocarina out. Kratos will take forever to get there.... it would be just too late. Link wins.

Plus, do you really know all the weapons and possible combinations link can use? All the masks, shields, swords, armors, and god knows what else.... I mean, he can turn invincible, and kratos wouldn´t be able to touch him. By saying that we can combine every link..... That just gave the win to link.

If it was a pure fight w/o weapons, sure kratos will have the advantage. But, by combining every posible scenario with every single win.... you just have link the victory my friend


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

No it isn't.  I debunked your debunking... which you then acknowledged and then decided to completly ignore.

Also you know... you said composite link.

But Khuutra agreeing that Link is imune to bombs makes me win this arguement... which is the fact that you guys are being ridiculous about that programming. You havn't debunked me.

No, it's not.  Your assuming the cloak was a "programming mistake" based on nothing but more then your PURE desire for Kratos to win.

When the developers quite literally had to add this in, unlike "bomb invincibility" which could of been an oversite of omission.


And you are assuming it wasn't when nothing describes it working the way you do and only a few short years ago they had an oversight. That is why in this situation we need to apply logic... something you and Khuutra have ignored the whole thread.

That's not even remotely logical.

What your argueing is the equivelent of... "I made the oversite of locking my keys in the car" vs "I made the oversite of throwing my keys in the toilet and flushing it... because, I felt like doing it."

 

Oversite A happens a lot.   Oversite B pretty much NEVER happens... because the person actually realizes what he's doing.



Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
McClaren said:
dampowell said:
You do realize... Link could assemble the triforce and wish Kratos never existed.


You do realize... Kratos could go see the Sisters of Fate and make sure Link was never born.

hey, i said that

Though... it wouldn't work, since Link isn't from their world, and isn't woven into their loom.

Also, assuming a nuetral ground, time travel in general isn't going to help, since all you can do is travel back in time in the nuetral land... and doing so would be seen as retreating anway, prompting a loss in the fight.

so i guess triforce wouldnt work on kratos as well?

Why wouldn't it?  The Triforce works on anybody.  You don't need to be "woven into the triforce" for it to work on anybody.  It's just outword reality manipulation.

That's the thing.  The Triforce is an outword multiversal reality manipulation.  While the Loom of Fate is a very specific kind of reality manipulation.

It's like having a sword that kills skeletons in one hit and the vorpal sword.

so cherry pciking than? just say so.


They have been cherry picking the entire 800 posts... but I have to say this isn't one of those times. The loom would only work if Kratos tailored a specific thread for Link after crossing over though... butt this isn't the situation. It's the same for Link with the triforce. The guy cant just run away to start looking for the triforce in hopes of gaining it before hundreds of hundred of hundreds of years goes by.

Thankfully for link you've created a scenario where Link starts with the Triforce.

Though the Triforce is really just pure spite for Link anyway.

It's like giving Thanos the Infinity Gauntlet in a fight vs Wolverine.


Yet there is no clearity with what happens after Link touches the tri-force... andyou said so yourself that it goes away after the wish is granted. If it where all powerful like you claim with multiple wishes Ganon being the smart sorcerer that he is should have wished him out of existance.

Yeah, i was WRONG on that.  I went back and looked at the ending of LttP and realized he made more then 1 wish.  To be honest, i'm not that big a Zelda fan.

It's just like how I'm not a big Superman fan... yet I know Superman would beat Wolverine in a fight.

Unlike you... I don't have a "Dog in the fight".

 



Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
dampowell said:
Kasz216 said:
dampowell said:
Okay... I don't think this had been said. But if the Hero of Time... does not show up to defeat Kratos... or dies.. he will be reborn in another boy to face the evil again. So even if Kratos wins the first fight... he'll have millennia of fights to stop link.

In a nuetral world there would be nobody to be reborn back into, also Kratos would return to his world's hades as well... and not be able to make it back.  So really ressurection is out of the question for both.

In a neutral world, neither of them would potentially be who they are.

For instance. Superman would just be MAN if he was in a neutral world. There would be no yellow sun to exploit. That makes the whole argument baseless... Basically this entire thread is just Nintedo vs Sony... so why not just base it on which sells better? That is what VgChartz is about anyways.

A nuetral world means "A world in which all their powers work like they do in their own worlds."


So, Kratos power would work just like it would in his own world... he would go to Hades in his physical form.... in the GOW universe.

Link would be reborn... in the body of a Hyrulian... in Hyrule.

Superman keeps his powers in a nuetral setting.  It's been done more then enough in versus settings.



Khuutra on 16 April 2010

Letsdance if you don't stop bringing up a point that Kasz admitted he was wrong about, I'm going to start thinking that you're ignoring that on purpose just to benefit your argument.